[Taxacom] Order Campanulales (worth maintaining?)
Jim Croft
jim.croft at gmail.com
Wed Feb 16 08:13:20 CST 2011
It could be, and if it is, is is pretty sloppy for scientific
communication, and clear communication is, after all, the business of
taxonomy.
'preference' could also a code word for whim, peccadillo or pet
hair-brained theory (but this of course would never happen on
Taxacom).
'possibility' is even preferable to 'preference' because it allows to
notion of testability against evidence. 'preference' is personal, you
can not test it and you do not have to justify it.
Jim
On Thursday, February 17, 2011, Frederick W. Schueler <bckcdb at istar.ca> wrote:
> On 2/16/2011 8:15 AM, Richard Jensen wrote:
>> I agree with Jim. If there is evidence to support the order, then keep
>> it or make a decision to adopt APG II as your framework.
>
> * in this kind of discussion, isn't "any preference" a code word for "an
> evidence-based rationale"?
>
> fred.
> ===================================================
>
>>
>> On 2/16/2011 5:32 AM, Jim Croft wrote:
>>> Preference? So, Angiosperm phylogeny is a popularity contest now?
>>>
>>> What ever happened to that quaint archaic notion of evidence as a
>>> trigger for change?
>>>
>>> jim
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Kenneth Kinman<kennethkinman at webtv.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Since I haven't updated my angiosperm classification in almost 2
>>>> years, I was looking at some possible changes, especially some minor
>>>> coding changes.
>>>> However, in the process, I also began to wonder about whether to
>>>> continue separating Order Campanulales from Order Asterales (which were
>>>> merged in APG II). Although Order Campanulales may now only include two
>>>> families (Campanulaceae and Rousseaceae), it is still rather speciose.
>>>> Anyway, I have no strong inclination one way or the other in this
>>>> case. So I wonder if any taxacomers have any preferences one way or the
>>>> other? Lump Order Campanulales into Asterales, or keep them as separate
>>>> sister Orders?
>>>> --------Cheers,
>>>> Ken Kinman
>
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