[Taxacom] Order Campanulales (worth maintaining?)

[John Grehan]

But that's the way it's always been in taxonomy, or probably anything else for that matter. Preferences are made with respect to interpretations of evidence. Where the evidence is unambiguous the preference will likely be a consensus. Where the evidence has some level of ambiguity there will not be a consensus, but likely two or more preferences among groups involved. Sometimes the majority group does indeed dominate. This is demonstrated extremely well in human origins where the overwhelming majority prefer the molecular sequence evidence rather than the morphogenetic evidence.

John Grehan

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To: Kenneth Kinman
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Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Order Campanulales (worth maintaining?)

Preference? So, Angiosperm phylogeny is a popularity contest now?

What ever happened to that quaint archaic notion of evidence as a
trigger for change?

jim

On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Kenneth Kinman <kennethkinman at webtv.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>      Since I haven't updated my angiosperm classification in almost 2
> years, I was looking at some possible changes, especially some minor
> coding changes.
>       However, in the process, I also began to wonder about whether to
> continue separating Order Campanulales from Order Asterales (which were
> merged in APG II).  Although Order Campanulales may now only include two
> families (Campanulaceae and Rousseaceae), it is still rather speciose.
>     Anyway, I have no strong inclination one way or the other in this
> case.  So I wonder if any taxacomers have any preferences one way or the
> other?  Lump Order Campanulales into Asterales, or keep them as separate
> sister Orders?
>            --------Cheers,
>                            Ken Kinman
>
>
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