[Taxacom] How good is Zoological Record's harvesting of taxonomic data? [was Latin anyone?]

[Stephen Thorpe]

69.1.2. A subsequent designation first made in a literature-recording 
publication is to be accepted, if valid in all other respects



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From: "Tony.Rees at csiro.au" <Tony.Rees at csiro.au>
To: stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Sent: Mon, 18 October, 2010 12:19:08 PM
Subject: RE: [Taxacom] How good is Zoological Record's harvesting of taxonomic 
data? [was Latin anyone?]

Stephen Thorpe wrote:

> ...I do
> wish, though, that BHL would digitize all the old volumes of ZR, as I do
> not
> have easy access to these, and they are PRIMARY sources for nomenclatural
> acts
> such as type species designations, etc. (a point that is often overlooked)
> ...

Actually they are secondary sources (the original publication being the primary 
source). 

But then you know this, I am sure :)

Regards - Tony 

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> bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Thorpe
> Sent: Monday, 18 October 2010 9:45 AM
> To: Neal Evenhuis; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] How good is Zoological Record's harvesting of
> taxonomic data? [was Latin anyone?]
> 
> yeah, ZR still miss names - sometimes by missing the publications, and
> sometimes
> missing some names within a publication - but overall they are really
> pretty
> good at aggregating names. A more serious problem is that I think they
> should do
> just that, instead of also now trying to integrate names (listing
> synonyms,
> etc.), as they are far worse at the latter than they are at the former. ZR
> is an
> invaluable resource for building something more solid, like Wikispecies. I
> do
> wish, though, that BHL would digitize all the old volumes of ZR, as I do
> not
> have easy access to these, and they are PRIMARY sources for nomenclatural
> acts
> such as type species designations, etc. (a point that is often overlooked)
> ...
> 
> Stephen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Neal Evenhuis <neale at bishopmuseum.org>
> To: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>;
> "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu"
> <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Sent: Mon, 18 October, 2010 11:24:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] How good is Zoological Record's harvesting of
> taxonomic
> data? [was Latin anyone?]
> 
> Actually, Zoo Record's problem is not a language barrier -- it *was* (not
> now
> apparently - however see below) -- reflective of what was being received
> in the
> British library system. If no one sent anything in, they did not abstract
> it.
> How they missed our journal is a mystery, though, since it is received by
> the
> Natural History Museum and other places in the UK ....
> 
> But that was another error in the 1990s when there were problems in
> catching
> things. They *should* have improved their harvesting techniques since
> then.
> However ....they missed (at least one) paper with new taxa published in
> 2008 by
> a MUCH larger publishing house than us (Elsevier):
> 
> http://bit.ly/cMVlYm
> 
> Go figure ...
> 
> Since most have to pay to see their harvesting results (online or hard
> copy
> subscriptions), perhaps they should pay US for finding things they missed?
> :-)
> 
> -Neal
> ________________________________________
> 
> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 17:31:26 -0700 (PDT)
> 
> From: Stephen Thorpe
> <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz<mailto:stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>>
> 
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Latin anyone?
> 
> To: Neal Evenhuis <neale at bishopmuseum.org<mailto:neale at bishopmuseum.org>>
> 
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> 
> Here is an ironic name missing from Zoological Record (ION):
> 
> http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Dactylomyia_vockerothi
> 
> no language barrier here (unless we need a translator for Australianized
> American English!)
> 
> 
> 
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