[Taxacom] Euphorbiales/Malpighiales

Robin Leech releech at telus.net
Mon Apr 13 00:11:08 CDT 2009


Hi Mario,
It is the same in the ICZN.
Robin

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From: "Mario Blanco" <mblanco at flmnh.ufl.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Euphorbiales/Malpighiales


>
> Thanks, Robin. James Reveal also informed me of that in an off-list
> message. It is interesting that the ICBN expressly excludes
> suprafamilial taxa from the principle of priority.
>
>
> From:     Robin Leech <releech at telus.net>
>
> Mario,
> I do not believe that names above the family level have a
> published date for priority.  I believe it is usage, and who is
> the present specialist using this or that ordinal name, that
> sets the standards for use.
> Robin Leech
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mario Blanco" <mblanco at flmnh.ufl.edu>
> To: "TAXACOM" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 6:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Euphorbiales/Malpighiales
>
>
>>
>>  Probably because they use a recircumscribed order Malpighiales
>>  Jussieu (published in 1835). But you have a point; Euphorbiales
>>  Lindley was published earlier, in 1833, so Euphorbiales should have
>>  priority.
>>
>>  There is a short note on priority of family names in the APG II paper
>>  (2003. Bot. J. Linn. Soc. 141, note on pages 415-416), but there is
>>  no mention of how they dealt with names of higher level taxa. They
>>  might have simply overlooked the name Euphorbiales. Or there could be
>>  some other explanation.
>>
>>  -Mario
>>
>>  michael.heads at yahoo.com wrote:
>> > Dear Colleagues,
>> >
>> > Why do some authors call the large order including Euphorbia
>> > 'Malpighiales' instead of Euphorbiales, when Euphorbiaceae occur
>> > just about everywhere and Malpighiaceae are much less common?
>> >
>> > Michael Heads
>> >
>> > Wellington, New Zealand.
>> >
>> > My papers on biogeography are at the Buffalo Museum website:
>> >
>>
> www.sciencebuff.org/research/current-research-activities/john-grehan/evolutionary-biography/panbiogeographic-publications/heads-publications/
>>
>> >
>>
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