[Taxacom] Open review as a wiki
Donat Agosti
agosti at amnh.org
Tue Apr 1 03:32:19 CDT 2008
Why not? The Web allows to visualize all it needs to check, whether a name
is code compliant:
It has to be published: produce a doi/handle and in future another way to
fix a description on the web.
A type has to be fixed: produce an LSID of the type and all the other
specimens; get a domain specific illustration (also linked to with an LSID)
....
Unless we begin seriously to link names to specimens then we don't make the
best use and miss a crucial tool to discuss our taxa.
If we make this a routine that we not only make our descriptions online
accessible, but also the publications and specimen we need for our studies,
then we could get there - we have to, and will.
Donat
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Kirk [mailto:p.kirk at cabi.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:25 AM
To: Donat Agosti
Subject: RE: [Taxacom] Open review as a wiki
right on, Donat ...
for names there is a continuum for 100% Code compliant to 0% Code
compliant ... they cannot all easily be fitted into boxes of human
construction ... ;-)
Cheers,
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Donat Agosti [mailto:agosti at amnh.org]
Sent: 01 April 2008 09:21
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Cc: 'Paul Kirk'; faunaplan at aol.com
Subject: RE: [Taxacom] Open review as a wiki
One way around ms names is, that Zoobank, and hopefully the other
domains, decide that names are only valid if they are accompanied with a
citation of a publication that shows up on the Internet. I would even go
a step ahead, that names are only available (in the nomenclatorial
sense), and can be checked out, if the descriptions are on systems like
plazi, where the names in the descriptions are marked up and enhanced
with LSIDs from the respective ICNs official name servers.
Donat
-----Original Message-----
From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Kirk
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 9:54 AM
To: faunaplan at aol.com; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Open review as a wiki
So will a few more 'phantom names' make a difference ... I think not ...
the proposed Global Names Architecture linked to the base nomenclators
will deal with these issues.
Your example is not the only error in 1.2million species names in the
CoL - is anything with this amount of data error free?
Most of the last few posts to this subject are still thinking in a 'two
dimensional way' ... publishing, manuscrips, generic revision, review
(in a formal way) ... these are foreign concepts to cybertaxonomy ...
not wishing to scare folks away.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of
faunaplan at aol.com
Sent: 01 April 2008 08:41
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Open review as a wiki
What about the issue of manuscript names becoming visible on the
internet?
Wouldn't they add to the heavy load of "phantom names" (data entry
misspellings, collection label names, etc.) that already made their way
into online databases?
Just one of so many examples:
"Somatrichus" is a subsequent misspelling of Somotrichus.
It may have first occurred in the NODC database, was harvested from
there by ITIS, from where it went to uBio, Species2000, GBIF,
ZipCodeZoo, etc. A search via Google now reveals several more usage
instances, we can search it via iSpecies, it has got it's own LSIDs in
uBio and Species2000, flagged as "accepted name" without reference to
the correct name Somotrichus, which itself is treated as a different
accepted name in all those databases....
How can we avoid that MS names will escape in the same way?
Are not projects like ZooBank (official registers taking care of the
"nomenclatural realm") the first priority steps when we talk about
setting up things like standard classifications or open-access review
mechanisms?
Cheers,
Wolfgang
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Wolfgang Lorenz
Faunistics & Environmental Planning
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