Ochlospecies, apology

[Daniel Janzen]

29 Jul 1999

No negative or insult intended to Diana Percy.  It was intended to be a
description of the situation.  There is a huge and daily growing package of
people using and listening to the net who have zip access to libraries.  If
we ask the conversation to refer to essential parts of the conversation in
books and libraries, no matter how dear they are to our hearts, we are
cutting all of those people out of the conversation.

I am obviously biased by living and working a zone where the closest
library is a five hour drive, and even there, there will NEVER be a library
of the sort that would house the book referred to.

Dan Janzen




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>From: Ken Kinman <kinman at HOTMAIL.COM>
>Subject:      Re: Ochlospecies
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>    Well, I am sorry to hear of any "suffering" in the transition.  But I
>for one would like to thank Diana for the information, since I had never
>heard of ochlospecies.  If I want to learn more about it, I will know where
>to go, even if I have to "suffer" somewhat to do so.  If politicians are in
>need of positive reinforcement, I think Diana is deserving of the same
>courtesy.  I certainly think the negative comments were unfair to say the
>least.
>                        ----Ken
>
>>From: Daniel Janzen <djanzen at SAS.UPENN.EDU>
>>Reply-To: Daniel Janzen <djanzen at SAS.UPENN.EDU>
>>To: TAXACOM at USOBI.ORG
>>Subject: Re: Ochlospecies
>>Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:51:43 -0600
>>
>>suffering the cutting edge of transition.  There is not 1 in 1000 readers
>>of taxacom who can walk to a library in one minute and read about
>>ochlospecies in the reference below.  If it is not put into the same medium
>>as the conversation, it is unavailable.
>>
>>Dan Janzen
>
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>> >Date:         Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:20:46 +0100
>> >Reply-To: Diana Percy <d.percy at UDCF.GLA.AC.UK>
>> >Sender: Taxacom Discussion List <TAXACOM at USOBI.ORG>
>> >From: Diana Percy <d.percy at UDCF.GLA.AC.UK>
>> >Subject:      Re: Ochlospecies
>> >Comments: To: carol wong <cwyp at hotmail.com>
>> >To: TAXACOM at USOBI.ORG
>> >
>> >At 02:33 29/07/99 PDT, carol wong wrote:
>> >>As I am new in taxonomy and systematics, I am having trouble searching
>>for
>> >>information regarding'ochlospecies'. I wonder if there are any
>>references to
>> >>this subject that I can look into. How can we attempt to solve this
>>complex
>> >>using molecular biology?  What should we look into when designing a
>>project
>> >>regarding this problem? Thanks.
>> >
>> >There was a recent symposium in honour of Frank White who coined the term
>> >'ochlospecies', see the following in the conference volume:
>> >
>> >CRONK, Q.C.B. (1998) The ochlospecies concept. Ch. 11 in:
>> >Huxley, C.R., Lock, J.M. & Cutler, D.F. (eds) Chorology of the
>> >African and Madagascan Floras. Kew Bulletin Additional Series, HMSO,
>> >UK.
>> >
>> >Diana Percy,
>> >Division of Environmental and Evolutionary Biology,
>> >Graham Kerr Building,
>> >University of Glasgow,
>> >Glasgow G12 8QQ,
>> >Scotland.
>>
>
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