[Simtrainer-l] Interested in your take on the writing

[Sue meyer]

I agree that it’s a run on. I find this frequently especially on a pretest with other common error patterns. 
Sue Meyer
Cary, Illinois 

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> On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:18 PM, Debby Mossburg via Simtrainer-l <simtrainer-l at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
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> I've always counted sentences like this as run-ons - I think comma splices are listed in the scoring instructions as run-ons.
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> Debby Mossburg
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> From: Taylor, Mary Etta via Simtrainer-l <simtrainer-l at lists.ku.edu>
> To: Debi Rice <darice52 at gmail.com>
> Cc: Susan Woodruff <swoodruf at icloud.com>; SIMTRAINER-L <simtrainer-l at lists.ku.edu>
> Sent: Tue, Jan 29, 2019 2:51 pm
> Subject: Re: [Simtrainer-l] Interested in your take on the writing
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> Compound with incorrect punctuation to me. 
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jan 29, 2019, at 10:36 AM, Debi Rice via Simtrainer-l <simtrainer-l at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
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>> Susan,
>> As an English teacher and SIM trainer, I would score the sentence as a run-on. Looking at the rest of the text, the student doesn’t appear to understand when to use commas, which leads me to believe that the student used the comma as a pause rather than for a compound sentence.
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>> Debi Rice, Ed.S
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>> On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Schumaker, Jean via Simtrainer-l <simtrainer-l at lists.ku.edu> wrote:
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>>> Hmm… I’ve always scored this type of sentence as a run-on sentence. Otherwise, you’d be giving the student credit for knowing how to form a compound sentence.  If the student really knew how to form a compound sentence, it wouldn’t look like this! In other words, the idea is to just score the sentences as they appear without giving the student extra credit by surmising something.   Jean
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>>> From: Susan Woodruff <swoodruf at icloud.com>
>>> Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 1:23 PM
>>> To: SIM Trainers <simtrainer-l at lists.ku.edu>
>>> Cc: Jean Schumaker <jschumak at ku.edu>
>>> Subject: Interested in your take on the writing
>>> 
>>> Hello …
>>> I’m working with a small district in Ohio.  I’ve noticed this pattern in the student writing in this district (especially high school), and I would curious how you would score these pretests for sentence writing.  I am attaching one student’s pretest.  
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>>> The particular error pattern I’m looking up shows up twice in this student’s piece.  The very first sentence attempt is 
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>>> “I have a very big family, I have 8 brothers and 2 sisters and 1 niece.”  
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>>> Would you score this as a run-on or a compound sentence not punctuated correctly?
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>>> Up until now, I’ve scored it as a non sentence - now I am second guessing myself.  I’ve seen this error regularly in the students’ writing.
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>>> What do you think?
>>> Sue
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>>> Here is student paragraph for sentence writing pretest:
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>>> <PENS Pre.jpeg>
>>> <PENS Pre.jpeg>
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