[Taxacom] iNaturalist and the dangers of community ID sites!

[Stephen Thorpe]

 Hi Peter,The purpose of posting this discussion to Taxacom is partly that I don't have anything better to do while suspended, but more constructively to highlight some of the problems at one of the world's main repositories of biodiversity data, problems that could impact the amount and quality of such data. So, for example, if Hegg can get away with taking a destructive approach to identifications, rolling back what were (in part) Research Grade observations (shared by way of periodic harvests to GBIF, etc), then that is at least worth being aware of. Similarly, the fact that the previous contributions of a user who finds themselves suspended are, as a default (but no tin my case, at present), no longer in the public domain, is also worth knowing. The full transcript is spread over too many different pages to keep track of, but here is one major bit, though be aware that some comments now seem to be selectively hidden: Flag for Comment 8449469 · iNaturalist NZ


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Cheers, Stephen
    On Tuesday, 21 December 2021, 02:24:54 pm NZDT, Peter A Rauch via Taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> wrote:  
 
 Stephen,
I'm not clear on what the problem is, nor what you expect to accomplish by
reporting selectively about it on Taxacom...

Without access to a full, unedited transcription of the entire sequence of
communications, I doubt that any opinions expressed on Taxacom, about the
situation, can be of much assistance.

Please, either provide links to the actual --and complete-- iNaturalist
conversation(s), or provide a full transcript (exact copy) of those
conversations.

Peter R.

On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 3:59 PM Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
wrote:

> Things on iNat have taken a sinister turn. I'm suspended again (though my
> contributions remain visible). I think I'm suspended for continuing to
> (politely) defend myself against ridiculously exaggerated accusations
> relating the the Hegg incident, where I have now been publicly accused of a
> "heinous abuse of power"! We seem to have a kangaroo court in session.
> Someone else chipped in with the insidious comment that the proper thing
> for me to have done would have been to try to talk to Hegg first, before
> suspending him. As if I hadn't tried that!!! Unfortunately, before I had
> chance to reply to that and politely point out that I had done so, but to
> no avail, a staff member tried to cut off further discussion by advising
> against anyone continuing to try to have the final word. So, I think I'm
> now suspended for trying to have the final word, although to not do so
> would have left the final word with the above insidious comment, implying
> that I suspended Hegg before trying to reason with him, which is plainly
> not true!
>
> Stephen
>
> ...cut, cut...
>
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