[Taxacom] Dishonorable people as species names

[Ivie, Michael]

Jeez, really? Use English much? A name is a noun.  As it is not a verb, it has no action.  A name can do nothing.  Further, Science is a process.  Detriment is harm. I’m not sure you can harm science.  All the things I can think of harm something other than science specifically.

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From: John Grehan <calabar.john at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2019 7:11:17 PM
To: Geoffrey Read <gread at actrix.gen.nz>
Cc: Ivie, Michael <mivie at montana.edu>; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Dishonorable people as species names

Mike - since you defied Geoff to defend his statement perhaps you could present a defense of  your statement that "names do not contribute to nor act to the detriment of science". (I have no firm opinion either way, just interested to see the defense).

John Grehan

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 5:07 PM Geoff Read via Taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu<mailto:taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>> wrote:
Selective quoting Michael.

The phrase was "and see the subsequent sniggering in the press, to the
detriment of any science"  The sniggering at the silliness of the
association of the famous person with the creature/plant being detrimental
to public appreciation and possible evaluation of the worth of the science
in the article. In my opinion. But maybe if you're keen on getting any
attention you do it anyway.

Geoff Read


On Mon, November 11, 2019 8:11 pm, Ivie, Michael via Taxacom wrote:
> I defy you to defend this statement:
>
> On 11/11/2019 12:03 AM, Geoff Read via Taxacom wrote:
>> to the detriment of any science.
>
> Naming isn't science, and names do not contribute to nor act to the
> detriment of science. Get real.  Don't try to defend your position with
> such absurdities.
>
> Stick to reality -- you don't like it, you think it is undignified, or
> whatever, but "to the detriment of any science?" Pure hyperbole.
>
> Mike
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> Michael A. Ivie, Ph.D., F.R.E.S.


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