[Taxacom] Lisarda - a butterfly genus??

Tue Oct 17 03:19:16 CDT 2017

Dear Mary,

another very helpful taxonomic resource in particular for lepidoptera 
names is this one:

http://www.nic.funet.fi/pub/sci/bio/life/intro.html

As you can see, the search for "Lisarda" does not deliver a genus name, 
but only a species of butterfly (Penthema lisarda).

Best wishes,

Martin

Am 17.10.2017 um 03:14 schrieb Mary Barkworth:
> Thank you everyone for all the sources. I really do try to look around but looking at zoological names is a whole new direction for me.  I do love those nomenclatural resources that include the authors as part of the reference.
>
> Mary
>
>
> From: Tony Rees [mailto:tonyrees49 at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 4:53 PM
> To: Mary Barkworth <Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu>
> Cc: (Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu) <Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Lisarda - a butterfly genus??
>
> Hi Mary,
>
> If I can offer my 2 cents worth...
>
> You want to know a few few things - that the name is correctly spelled, and that if it is a homonym, you are looking at the correct instance i.e. in the right taxonomic group (sometimes homonyms are in the same group but generally the valid name is generally clearly recognised those cases). Having the authority for the name will also help a lot e.g. for searching Google Scholar in particular.
>
> If you are sure that the name is correctly spelled, then for (almost all) published zoological names you can get the genus authority from ION (sometimes in multiple variants as used in the secondary literature). In this case the query would be of the form
>
>    http://www.organismnames.com/query.htm?q=Lisarda
>
> from which you can find that there is just one instance of the name known to ION after minor deduplication, it has the authority Stal 1859, and clicking on that link takes you to the present ION classification (generally to family but not always) and a couple of recent article titles.
>
> Once you have the phrase "Lisarda Stal", entering that into Google Scholar gets you a lot further than just entering "Lissarda", e.g. compare
>
>    https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?q=Lisarda+stal
>
> with
>
>    https://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?q=Lisarda
>
> (the latter is almost useless in this case).
>
> To establish whether the genus name might be a homonym (across multiple kingdoms too if that is needed), my own IRMNG compilation is set up to do this (also returns authorities as well), however not all the names are presently as taxonomically well resolved as in ION or some other places. IRMNG presently comes in two flavours: the most recent/ongoing version which is as www.irmng.org<http://www.irmng.org> (based at VLIZ in Belgium), and a "frozen" version at CSIRO in Australia (last updated in 2014) which nevertheless still does a few things not currently in the VLIZ version (although the latter of course has other useful features based on the WoRMS model). Both versions will check for homonyms as known to the system/s (only one instance of "Lisarda" in this case, but in other cases there may be multiple ones), and the older (CSIRO) version will also automatically check for near matches in cases the name you want is misspelled, but is masked by a correctly spelled name of something you did not want (if you get my drift). The VLIZ version of IRMNG also checks for misspellings but only if there is no other name on the system that matches the misspelled name you entered.
>
> Here are the direct routes to query the two IRMNG versions; you will note that the display format is a bit different but the underlying data is similar (the VLIZ version will, however, have the latest updates and corrections post 2014 that are not in the CSIRO system):
>
> IRMNG at VLIZ: (most up-to-date, but near matches are displayed if no direct hit):
>
>    http://www.irmng.org/aphia.php?p=taxlist&tComp=is&tName=Lisarda  (or substitute last word with "Wagneria" to see a more extended example)
>
> IRMNG at CSIRO: (less up-to-date but will include near matches too which may in fact contain the name you were looking for):
>
>    http://www.marine.csiro.au/mirrorsearch/ir_search.go?hlevel=genus&searchtxt=Lisarda
>
> I find the last very helpful to check for potential misspellings in particular.
>
> Once you have the desired target name plus authority, Google Scholar is your friend and you should be away.
>
> Best regards - Tony
>
>
>
>
> Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
> https://about.me/TonyRees
>
> On 17 October 2017 at 07:22, Mary Barkworth <Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu<mailto:Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu>> wrote:
> Once again, my problem is that I cannot find the name of the genus is any of my go to places. There are several records from the genus in SCAN. They place it in the Reduviidae. Has the genus been transferred? If so, to what?
>
> Mary
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