[Taxacom] [iczn-list] Alleged New species of snake - junior synonym of species named 5 years ago - failure of alleged peer review

Stephen Thorpe stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Wed Nov 29 12:29:22 CST 2017


Note that publication dates can be falsified. However, I note that ION does have Hoser's name ( http://www.organismnames.com/details.htm?lsid=4907976 ). It would however be better if there was an easy way to determine the date when ION added the name to their database (maybe they give sequential identifiers, so one could look to see what else is around 4907976).

Stephen

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On Thu, 30/11/17, Raymond Hoser - The Snakeman <viper007 at live.com.au> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [iczn-list] Alleged New species of snake - junior synonym of species named 5 years ago - failure of alleged peer review
 To: "Walter J. Bock" <wb4 at columbia.edu>, "TAXACOM" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>, "taxacom at nhm.ku.edu" <taxacom at nhm.ku.edu>
 Received: Thursday, 30 November, 2017, 12:51 AM
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 Walter, 
 
 in the first instance I didn't include citations because
 a "Google" search of the relevant names brings up
 the source papers.
 
 However I have cited them in full below to make them easier
 for you to locate (again easiest via Google).
 
 Hope this makes it easier.
 
 All the best
 
 Raymond Hoser
 
 
 
 
 Sara Ruane, Stephen J. Richards, John D. McVay, Burhan
 Tjaturadi, Keliopas
 
 Krey & Christopher C. Austin 2017. Cryptic and
 non-cryptic diversity in New Guinea
 
 ground snakes of the genus Stegonotus Duméril,
 
 Bibron and Duméril, 1854: a description of four
 
 new species (Squamata: Colubridae).
 
 Journal of Natural History, Published online on 27 Nov
 2017
 and
 Hoser, R. T. 2012. Three new species of Stegonotus from
 New Guinea (Serpentes: Colubridae). Australasian Journal of
 Herpetology 12:18-22. Published 30 April 2012.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 From: Walter J. Bock
 <wb4 at columbia.edu>
 
 Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2017 4:23 AM
 
 To: Raymond Hoser - The Snakeman
 
 Subject: Re: [iczn-list] Alleged New species of snake
 - junior synonym of species named 5 years ago - failure of
 alleged peer review
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Dear Mr Hoser:
 
 
 
 
 You would have strengthened your letter if you included the
 citations to your original paper and that of Ruane, 2017.
 
 
 
 
 Could you  provide these citations.
 
 
 
 
 Thank you,
 
 
 
 
 Walter Bock
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Dr. Walter J. Bock
 
 Professor Emeritus of Evolutionary Biology
 
 Department of Biological Sciences
 
 Columbia University
 
 New York, NY 10027, USA
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 28, 2017
 at 8:02 AM, Raymond Hoser - The Snakeman
 <viper007 at live.com.au>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 Dear
 all,
 
 A new species, Stegonotus melanolabiatus Ruane et al. 2017,
 was published this week.
 
 
 The authors and peer reviewers have obviously missed the
 fact that this is actually a synonym of the previously
 described Stegonotus adelynhoserae Hoser, 2012.
 
 The
 published diagnosis of Stegonotus melanolabiatus Ruane et
 al, 2017, is effectively the same as that of Hoser (2012).
 Compare the diagnoses in the papers of Hoser (2012) and
 Ruane et al. (2017) (e.g.
  subcaudals, apical pits, distribution, etc) to confirm that
 this new species is indeed a subsequent synonym. I should
 also note that Ruane et al. 2017 have not cited the work of
 Hoser, 2012 in their paper.
 
 
 The
 claim that peer review is essential for taxonomic validity
 is shown to be incorrect as in this case peer review still
 allowed the description of a new name in synonymy as well as
 well as not picking
  up on the obvious failure of the authors to investigate the
 relevant scientific literature adequately.
 
 
  Yours
 faithfully,
 
  Raymond Hoser
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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