[Taxacom] OK Taxacomers, you have had your chance, now it's the lawyers turn.

[Daly, Doug]

Bannon's armed struggle around the corner?

Douglas C. Daly, Ph.D.
Director, Institute of Systematic Botany
B. A. Krukoff Curator of Amazonian Botany
The New York Botanical Garden
2900 Southern Boulevard
Bronx, NY 10458
718-817-8660
ddaly at nybg.org

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From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Alec McClay
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 1:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [Taxacom] OK Taxacomers, you have had your chance, now it's the lawyers turn.

I wasn't sure what the PLF was so looked them up and found a few statements of their philosophy on their website:

They say "We are a group of individuals united in our belief that personal liberty is essential to a thriving and prosperous society. We use bold and innovative strategies to challenge burdensome laws in courts and legislatures across the country, and in the hearts and minds of the American public. ... Governments at all levels undermine liberty by passing laws that interfere with peoples’ right to freely associate and express themselves, acquire and use property, or earn an honest living.  ... we secure the right to the productive and ordinary use of land; prevent governments from taking property; fight unconstitutional or unlawful regulatory requirements; promote balance in environmental laws; ... we fight to end the modern administrative state ... restore separation of powers against improper delegation of authority to bureaucrats"

Make of that what you will. I do wonder what they propose to put in place of the "modern administrative state".

Alec.

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> Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 22:38:56 +0000
> From: "Beach, James H." <beach at ku.edu>
> To: "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Subject: [Taxacom] OK Taxacomers, you have had your chance,	now it's
> 	the lawyers turn.
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> Lawyers decide the definition of 'species'.
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> >From the article:
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> Today, PLF and several allied organizations submitted a petition for rule-making<https://pacificlegal.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/ESA-Taxonomy-Rulemaking-Petition.pdf> to the [U.S.] federal agencies that administer the Endangered Species Act.
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> ...
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> Our petition seeks an end to the arbitrariness [of what a species is] through the setting of clear, scientifically defensible and politically sensible definitions for the statutory terms "species" and "subspecies." The petition recommends that, for the former, the longstanding and well-regarded biological species concept be adopted, according to which a species is delimited by reproductive isolation. For the latter, the petition asks for the adoption of a variant of the equally longstanding "75% rule," pursuant to which individuals within a species must be diagnosed accurately at least 75% of the time as belonging to putative Subspecies A or B or C, etc., using genetic or other biologically significant characters.
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> https://pacificlegal.org/a-petition-to-resolve-the-endangered-species-
> act-taxonomy-debate/
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> James H. Beach
> Biodiversity Institute
> University of Kansas
> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
> Lawrence, KS 66045, USA
> Office: 785-864-4645
> Cell: 785-331-8508
> Zoom: https://kansas.zoom.us/my/specify
>

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