[Taxacom] OK Taxacomers, you have had your chance, now it's the lawyers turn.

[John Grehan]

Lewis Carroll had nothing on these guys.

John Grehan

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On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 12:17 AM, Donat Agosti <agosti at amnh.org> wrote:

> To be able to find, cite here the doi https://doi.org/10.5281/
> zenodo.1067325 DOI: 10.5281/zenodo.1067325 of the article archive at BLR
>
> donat
>
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> Beach, James H.
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> Subject: [Taxacom] OK Taxacomers, you have had your chance, now it's the
> lawyers turn.
>
> Lawyers decide the definition of 'species'.
>
> From the article:
>
> Today, PLF and several allied organizations submitted a petition for
> rule-making<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.
> com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpacificlegal.org%2Fwp-
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> to the [U.S.] federal agencies that administer the Endangered Species Act.
>
> ...
>
> Our petition seeks an end to the arbitrariness [of what a species is]
> through the setting of clear, scientifically defensible and politically
> sensible definitions for the statutory terms "species" and "subspecies."
> The petition recommends that, for the former, the longstanding and
> well-regarded biological species concept be adopted, according to which a
> species is delimited by reproductive isolation. For the latter, the
> petition asks for the adoption of a variant of the equally longstanding
> "75% rule," pursuant to which individuals within a species must be
> diagnosed accurately at least 75% of the time as belonging to putative
> Subspecies A or B or C, etc., using genetic or other biologically
> significant characters.
>
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> James H. Beach
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