[Taxacom] scientific illustrations and access

[Michael A. Ivie]

David,

Since we cannot even get a huge number of systematists to understand 
whether their nomenclature is consistent with the relatively simple 
legal system called the ICZN, expecting even a random lawyer to know if 
this "is consistent with law."  That judgement is not valid from you, it 
comes from a judge. [Note: Judgement is the result of a Judge.]  Not my 
job to do your job of looking at case law.  Come back when you have a 
judge's ruling to cite.

Mike


On 3/14/2017 1:26 PM, David Patterson wrote:
> Mike
>
> The authors were very clear that we present on opinion, but one that 
> is consistent with law. Could you provide the case law or other legal 
> precedents to support your claim that there is law that supports the 
> treatment of 'artwork' in publications as being under copyright.  Thanks
>
> David
>
> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 4:52 AM, Michael A. Ivie <mivie at montana.edu 
> <mailto:mivie at montana.edu>> wrote:
>
>     This is a continuation of a disturbing new trend we see in the US
>     from our President: If you want something, just make a claim the
>     laws don't apply to you and take it.  There is a large body of law
>     that shows that artwork in a publication is subject to copyright. 
>      This paper does not have any affect on that fact. Until is it
>     tested in court in each country, it is just an assertion.
>
>     Mike
>
>
>     On 3/13/2017 3:29 PM, Donat Agosti wrote:
>
>         Here is the link to the press release
>         https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-03/pp-lor031317.php
>         <https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-03/pp-lor031317.php><https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eurekalert.org%2Fpub_releases%2F2017-03%2Fpp-lor031317.php&data=01%7C01%7Cagosti%40amnh.org%7C9154da42673940b6b24708d46a28fb21%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0&sdata=go798VKWViVVbLOodYMQSM38JcugcumJcMNJJPKYhGw%3D&reserved=0
>         <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.eurekalert.org%2Fpub_releases%2F2017-03%2Fpp-lor031317.php&data=01%7C01%7Cagosti%40amnh.org%7C9154da42673940b6b24708d46a28fb21%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0&sdata=go798VKWViVVbLOodYMQSM38JcugcumJcMNJJPKYhGw%3D&reserved=0>>
>         , the article https://t.co/mi5JknB2VQ about, and what can be
>         done with the huge untapped body of scientific illustrations
>         if we free them, that is, give them the freedom they ought to
>         have, not least so that they can be given due limelight and
>         attribution
>         https://zenodo.org/communities/biosyslit/searchpage=1&size=20&file_type=png
>         <https://zenodo.org/communities/biosyslit/searchpage=1&size=20&file_type=png>
>
>         Donat
>
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