[Taxacom] monotypic or monobasic
Javier Luque
javierluquec at gmail.com
Mon Dec 18 11:34:12 CST 2017
Use of 'monotypy' *sensu* the International Code of Zoological Nomenclature
Chapter 15: Types in the genus group.
"Art. 68.3: Type species by monotypy. When an author establishes a new
nominal genus-group taxon for a single taxonomic species and denotes that
species by an available name, the nominal species so named is the type
species. Fixation by this means is deemed to be fixation by monotypy,
regardless of any cited synonyms, subspecies, or unavailable names, and
regardless of whether the author considered the nominal genus-group taxon
to contain other species which he or she did not cite by name, and
regardless of nominal species-group taxa doubtfully included or identified.
68.3.1. If a new genus is divided into subgenera at the time its name is
established, and if the nominotypical subgenus contains only a single
species, that nominal species is deemed to be the type by monotypy of the
new nominal genus."
Cheers,
Javier
On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com> wrote:
> In the message below I tried internationalizing the links but they do not
> seem to work so well - the ones I actually used are here:
>
> https://books.google.com.au/books?redir_esc=y&id=Qky7_6-
> UcQQC&q=monobasic#v=snippet&q=monotypic&f=false
> https://books.google.com.au/books?redir_esc=y&id=Qky7_6-
> UcQQC&q=monotypic#v=snippet&q=monotypic&f=false
>
> - Tony
>
> Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
> https://about.me/TonyRees
>
> On 18 December 2017 at 16:59, Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Definitions from Terms Used in Bionomenclature: The Naming of Organisms
> > and Plant Communities ...edited by D. L. Hawksworth
> > here:
> > https://books.google.com/books?redir_esc=y&id=Qky7_6-
> > UcQQC&q=monobasic#v=snippet&q=monobasic&f=false
> > https://books.google.com/books?redir_esc=y&id=Qky7_6-
> > UcQQC&q=monotypic#v=snippet&q=monotypic&f=false
> >
> > Regards - Tony
> >
> > Tony Rees, New South Wales, Australia
> > https://about.me/TonyRees
> >
> > On 18 December 2017 at 00:32, Weakley, Alan <weakley at bio.unc.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> Notice that this definition of "monotypic" is unequivocally
> nomenclatural
> >> (appropriately so, I suppose, given its source): "monotypic genus. A
> genus
> >> for which a single binomial is validly published (Art. 38.6) (see also
> >> unispecific)". The definition was provided in the ICNafp only for the
> >> purposes of Article 38.5-6 allowing simultaneous publication of a genus
> and
> >> a species description (the description being the same).
> >>
> >> This nomenclatural definition is contrary to the very common and
> standard
> >> usage in floras and other botanical works along the lines of "Ginkgo is
> a
> >> monotypic genus, with only a single extant species". This common and
> >> standard usage is "taxonomic", meaning there is only a single currently
> >> "recognized/accepted" species in the genus. Even leaving aside the
> issue
> >> of "monotypy" and extinct taxa, Ginkgo (and other prominent examples of
> >> monotypic genera, like Welwitschia) are not monotypic by the ICNafp
> >> definition.
> >>
> >> It's hard to think of a situation (outside the Code itself or a
> >> nomenclatural analysis of very rare cases) in which one would want or
> need
> >> to use "monotypic" as defined narrowly and nomenclaturally to mean a
> genus
> >> for which only a single species had ever been validly published.
> >>
> >> And note that the Code seemingly defines "unispecific" by not defining
> it
> >> but providing a definition that in theory should replace and mean
> something
> >> different than the very narrow nomenclatural definition of "monotypic":
> >> "unispecific. [Not defined] – with a single species." The "[Not
> defined]"
> >> is explained: "The particular usage of a few other words, not defined in
> >> the Code, is also indicated; these are italicized in the list below and
> are
> >> accompanied by editorial explanation of their use."
> >>
> >> Googling "monotypic" one finds contrary definitions, a few with the new
> >> narrow nomenclatural definition, but others, like this one a
> >> Merriam-Webster, reflection the more common usage: "including a single
> >> representative —used especially of a genus with only one species".
> >>
> >> I thought I'd hit the jackpot with a Wikipedia disambiguation page for
> >> "Monotype", but:
> >>
> >> A monotype is a print made by drawing or painting on a smooth,
> >> non-absorbent surface.
> >> Monotype may also refer to:
> >> Monotypic taxon, a taxonomic group containing only one
> >> immediately subordinate taxon
> >> Monotype Corporation, a typesetting and typeface design
> >> company
> >> Monotype System - the typesetting machine made by the
> >> Monotype Corporation
> >>
> >> The joke's on us... ;-)
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of
> >> Mary Barkworth
> >> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 6:15 AM
> >> To: taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> >> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] monotypic or monobasic
> >>
> >> Hurray! Thank you Paul. It was probably suggested to me by someone as it
> >> is not the sort of thing I would have gone out on a limb over.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of
> >> Paul van Rijckevorsel
> >> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 2:37 AM
> >> To: taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> >> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] monotypic or monobasic
> >>
> >> Well, "unispecific" is endorsed by the ICNafp, see the Glossary:
> >> http://www.iapt-taxon.org/nomen/main.php?page=glo
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Mary Barkworth" <Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu>
> >> To: "Les Watling" <watling at hawaii.edu>; <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> >> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 10:57 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] monotypic or monobasic
> >>
> >>
> >> > and then there is unispecific. No endorsement for it but we used it in
> >> > the FNA grass volumes in response to comments that monotypic was not
> >> > always appreopriate.
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: Taxacom <taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> on behalf of Les
> >> > Watling <watling at hawaii.edu>
> >> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 2:34:51 PM
> >> > To: Cc: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> >> > Subject: [Taxacom] monotypic or monobasic
> >> >
> >> > Blackwelder, (1967), p. 517:
> >> >
> >> > "If a new genus is proposed for a single species, that species is
> >> > automatically the genotype, and the genus is said to be *monobasic*.
> >> > (The term *monotypic* is sometimes used in this sense, buit it is
> >> > inappropriate and should be avoided.)"
> >> >
> >> > News to me..... should have paid closer attention in class!
> >> >
> >> > Les
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Les Watling
> >> > Professor, Dept. of Biology
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> >> > Honolulu, HI 96822
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> >> >
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> >> >
> >> > I do not own a selfie stick because the self does not exist.
> >> >
> >> > When a tree falls in a forest, it does, of course, make a sound,
> >> > because, you have to realize, its not all about you.
> >> >
> >> > -- William
> >> > Pannapacker
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 8:00 AM, <taxacom-request at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
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> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Today's Topics:
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. Re: monotypic or monobasic (Lynn Raw)
> >> >> 2. Re: monotypic or monobasic (Stephen Thorpe)
> >> >> 3. Three kinds of bacteria (Negibacteria the oldest) (Kenneth
> >> Kinman)
> >> >> 4. monotypic monobasic (John Grehan)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> >> >> -
> >> >>
> >> >> Message: 1
> >> >> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 20:18:15 +0100
> >> >> From: Lynn Raw <lynn at afriherp.org>
> >> >> To: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
> >> >> Cc: taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] monotypic or monobasic
> >> >> Message-ID: <FF14C7A8-C240-4BDD-9F72-95BDFF711725 at afriherp.org>
> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >> >>
> >> >> From what I understand, monobasic is a term used in chemistry while
> >> >> monotypic is a term used in taxonomy and nomenclature. Definitions of
> >> >> both terms are available in good dictionaries or even on the web.
> >> >>
> >> >> Lynn Raw
> >> >>
> >> >> Sent from my iPad
> >> >>
> >> >> > On 14 Dec 2017, at 09:49, Stephen Thorpe
> >> >> > <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Monotypy is a nomenclatural term (ICZN) in relation to the fixation
> >> >> > of a
> >> >> type species of a new genus, but the grammatical variant monotypic
> >> >> has broader meaning. It is perhaps ugly to have variants of the same
> >> >> term with different meanings (one broader than the other)!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Stephen
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --------------------------------------------
> >> >> > On Thu, 14/12/17, Paul van Rijckevorsel <dipteryx at freeler.nl>
> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Subject: Re: [Taxacom] monotypic or monobasic
> >> >> > To: "taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> >> >> > Received: Thursday, 14 December, 2017, 9:32 PM
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The correct term should be
> >> >> > "unispecific".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The term "monotypic" sounds
> >> >> > nomenclatural, and
> >> >> > indeed has been defined
> >> >> > as a nomenclatural term
> >> >> > in the ICNafp. By
> >> >> > contrast, "unispecific" represents
> >> >> > a taxonomic concept
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sometimes "monospecific" can be
> >> >> > found, but this
> >> >> > is ugly, as it is a hybrid
> >> >> > combining a Greek and a
> >> >> > Latin word
> >> >> > element.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Paul
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> >
> >> >> > From: "Stephen Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
> >> >> > To: "taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>; "John Grehan"
> >> >> > <calabar.john at gmail.com>
> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 7:44 AM
> >> >> > Subject: Re: [Taxacom] monotypic or monobasic
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I expect that these terms don't have
> >> >> > very precise definitions and that
> >> >> >> there
> >> >> > may be a fair amount of variation in exact usage. My feeling is
> >> >> > that
> >> >> >> "monobasic" isn't
> >> >> > used much any more. It presumably means "with a single
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> basis", i.e. "based on a
> >> >> > single species". Monotypic presumably means "based
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> on a single type", though
> >> >> > "type" should, I think, be interpreted in the
> >> >> >> general sense, not as types in the
> >> >> > nomenclatural sense (i.e. type species
> >> >> >> or type specimens), which is a possible
> >> >> > source of confusion. So, a genus
> >> >> >> with
> >> >> > just one species regarded as valid would be monotypic, even if the
> >> >> >> single species had synonyms (and
> >> >> > therefore more than one type specimen
> >> >> >> included). All nominal genera obviously
> >> >> > have only one type species, whether
> >> >> >> or
> >> >> > not the genus is monotypic! Monotypy is the act of basing a new
> >> >> > genus on
> >> >> >> a single species. I have
> >> >> > never seen or heard the term "monobasy"! I also
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> don't think that these terms apply
> >> >> > to species, i.e. basing a new species on
> >> >> >> a single specimen doesn't make the
> >> >> > species mono-anything!
> >> >> >> Stephen
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > --------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> On Thu, 14/12/17, John Grehan <calabar.john at gmail.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Subject:
> >> >> > [Taxacom] monotypic or monobasic
> >> >> >> To:
> >> >> > "taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> >> >> >> Received: Thursday, 14 December, 2017,
> >> >> > 6:07 PM
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Dear
> >> >> > colleagues,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have
> >> >> > seen the terms 'monotypic' and
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > 'monobasic' applied to genera with a
> >> >> >> single species. I am curious to know if there is a technically
> >> >> >> correct choice for the use of these terms for such genera. If
> >> >> >> anyone may be able to enlighten me as to the rules, if any,
> >> >> >> governing how these terms are properly used I would be most
> >> >> >> grateful.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> John Grehan
> >> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Message: 2
> >> >> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 20:13:15 +0000 (UTC)
> >> >> From: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
> >> >> To: Lynn Raw <lynn at afriherp.org>
> >> >> Cc: taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] monotypic or monobasic
> >> >> Message-ID: <879602756.4731497.1513282395027 at mail.yahoo.com>
> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >> >>
> >> >> "Monobasic" certainly is (or was) also used in taxonomy, but perhaps
> >> >> not so much now, and any Google search only turns up the chemistry
> >> meaning.
> >> >>
> >> >> Stephen
> >> >>
> >> >> --------------------------------------------
> >> >> On Fri, 15/12/17, Lynn Raw <lynn at afriherp.org> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] monotypic or monobasic
> >> >> To: "Stephen Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
> >> >> Cc: "taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>, "Paul van Rijckevorsel"
> >> >> < dipteryx at freeler.nl>
> >> >> Received: Friday, 15 December, 2017, 8:18 AM
> >> >>
> >> >> From what I understand, monobasic
> >> >> is a term used in chemistry while monotypic is a term used in
> >> >> taxonomy and nomenclature. Definitions of both terms are available
> >> >> in good dictionaries or even on the web.
> >> >>
> >> >> Lynn Raw
> >> >>
> >> >> Sent from my iPad
> >> >>
> >> >> > On 14 Dec 2017, at 09:49, Stephen Thorpe
> >> >> <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Monotypy
> >> >> is a nomenclatural term (ICZN) in relation to the fixation of a
> >> >> type species of a new genus, but the grammatical variant monotypic
> >> >> has broader meaning. It is perhaps ugly to have variants of the same
> >> >> term with different meanings (one broader than the other)!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Stephen
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> --------------------------------------------
> >> >> > On Thu, 14/12/17, Paul van Rijckevorsel <dipteryx at freeler.nl>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Subject:
> >> >> Re: [Taxacom] monotypic or monobasic >
> >> >> To: "taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> > Received: Thursday,
> 14
> >> >> December, 2017,
> >> >> 9:32 PM
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The
> >> >> correct term should be
> >> >> >
> >> >> "unispecific".
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The term "monotypic" sounds
> >> >> > nomenclatural, and
> >> >> >
> >> >> indeed has been defined
> >> >> > as a
> >> >> nomenclatural term
> >> >> > in the ICNafp. By
> >> >> > contrast, "unispecific"
> >> >> represents
> >> >> > a taxonomic concept
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sometimes
> >> >> "monospecific" can be
> >> >> > found,
> >> >> but this
> >> >> > is ugly, as it is a hybrid
> >> >> > combining a Greek and a
> >> >> > Latin word
> >> >> >
> >> >> element.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Paul
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ----- Original
> >> >> Message -----
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> From: "Stephen Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz> > To:
> "taxacom"
> >> >> <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>; > "John Grehan"
> >> >> > <calabar.john at gmail.com>
> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 7:44 AM > Subject: Re:
> >> >> [Taxacom] monotypic or > monobasic > > >> I expect that these
> >> >> terms don't have > very precise definitions and that >> there >
> >> >> may be a fair amount of variation in exact usage. My feeling > is
> >> >> that >> "monobasic" isn't > used much any more. It presumably means
> >> >> "with a single > >> basis", i.e. "based on a > single species".
> >> >> Monotypic presumably means "based > >> on a single type", though
> >> >> > "type" should, I think, be interpreted in the >> general sense,
> >> >> not as types in the > nomenclatural sense (i.e. type species >> or
> >> >> type specimens), which is a possible > source of confusion. So, a
> >> >> genus >> with > just one species regarded as valid would be
> >> >> monotypic, even > if the >> single species had synonyms (and >
> >> >> therefore more than one type specimen >> included). All nominal
> >> >> genera obviously > have only one type species, whether >> or >
> >> >> not the genus is monotypic! Monotypy is the act of basing a > new
> >> >> genus on >> a single species. I have > never seen or heard the term
> >> >> "monobasy"! I also > >> don't think that these terms apply > to
> >> >> species, i.e. basing a new species on >> a single specimen doesn't
> >> >> make the > species mono-anything!
> >> >> >> Stephen
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> --------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> On Thu, 14/12/17, John Grehan <calabar.john at gmail.com> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Subject:
> >> >> >
> >> >> [Taxacom] monotypic or monobasic
> >> >> >>
> >> >> To:
> >> >> > "taxacom" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> >> Received: Thursday, 14
> >> >> December, 2017, > 6:07 PM >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >> Dear
> >> >> >
> >> >> colleagues,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have
> >> >> > seen the
> >> >> terms 'monotypic' and
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > 'monobasic' applied to genera with a >> single species. I am
> >> >> curious to know if >> there is a technically correct >> choice
> >> >> for the use of these terms for >> such genera. If anyone may be
> >> >> able to >> enlighten me as to the rules, if any, >> governing how
> >> >> these terms are >> properly used I would be most >> grateful.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> John
> >> >> Grehan
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
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> >> >> taxacom-owner at mailman.nhm.ku.edu >> >> Nurturing Nuance > while
> >> >> Assaulting >> Ambiguity for 30 Some > Years, 1987-2017.
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >>
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> >> >> Message: 3
> >> >> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 17:21:14 +0000
> >> >> From: Kenneth Kinman <kinman at hotmail.com>
> >> >> To: taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> >> >> Subject: [Taxacom] Three kinds of bacteria (Negibacteria the oldest)
> >> >> Message-ID:
> >> >> <CY4PR11MB1480650BB2E1588796035B5FC10B0 at CY4PR11MB1480.
> >> >> namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
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> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >> >>
> >> >> Dear All,
> >> >> I am puzzled why the prokaryotes are still classified as
> >> >> Domains Bacteria and Archaea. The most fundamental divide should
> >> >> actually be between Negibacteria (which possess the outer
> >> >> negibacterial membrane) on the one hand, and the Posibacteria and
> >> >> Archaebacteria (which have lost that
> >> >> outer membrane). Cavalier-Smith 1998 proposed the name Unibacteria
> >> for
> >> >> Posibacteria + Archaebacteria (since they have only the one membrane,
> >> >> not two).
> >> >> Cavalier-Smith, 2006 ("Rooting the tree of life by transition
> >> >> analyses") shows that Negibacteria are the oldest of the three taxa,
> >> and
> >> >> Archaebacteria are actually the youngest. I am pretty sure that is
> >> why
> >> >> eubacterial trees are so screwed up, because using Archaebacteria as
> >> >> the outgroup will misroot them (Archaebacteria are actually an
> >> >> ingroup, not an outgroup).
> >> >> Anyway, the names Negibacteria and Posibacteria were proposed
> >> >> 30 years ago (Cavalier-Smith, 1987), and they are excellent names
> >> >> which subdivide the Eubacteria into two large and important taxa. So
> >> >> why aren't they being used in databases like Catalogue of Life and
> >> >> NCBI's Taxonomy Browser, etc. ? The Three Domain classification of
> >> >> life is outdated and should have been discarded a long time ago.
> >> >> -----------------Ken Kinman Cavalier-Smith, 2006:
> >> >> https://openi.nlm.nih.gov/detailedresult.php?img=
> >> >> PMC1586193_1745-6150-1-19-2&req=4
> >> >> Evolutionary relationships among the four major kinds o | Open-i<
> >> >> https://openi.nlm.nih.gov/detailedresult.php?img=
> >> >> PMC1586193_1745-6150-1-19-2&req=4>
> >> >> openi.nlm.nih.gov
> >> >> Evolutionary relationships among the four major kinds of cell. The
> >> >> horizontal red arrow indicates the position of the universal root as
> >> >> inferred from the first
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------
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> >> >> Message: 4
> >> >> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 12:23:42 -0500
> >> >> From: John Grehan <calabar.john at gmail.com>
> >> >> To: taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> >> >> Subject: [Taxacom] monotypic monobasic
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> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >> >>
> >> >> My thanks for the various responses. Much appreciated.
> >> >>
> >> >> John Grehan
> >> >>
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