[Taxacom] Important note Re: two names online published - one new species
Stephen Thorpe
stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Tue Jan 26 14:57:19 CST 2016
Laurent,
Once again you are mistaken, but that doesn't reflect badly on you, it reflects badly on the the almost bewilderingly confusing way that the Code has been written.
As long as the early view file is considered to be the version of record (with preregistration on ZooBank truly indicated within), all that matters is that the PDF file for it contains something which can be reasonably interpreted as a date of publication. If the subsequent print edition is different in any regard, this is irrelevant.
So, in your example a statement "Systematic Entomology (2015) ..." in the online edition contains a date of publication (incompletely specified as 2015), so, all other things being equal, is Code compliant. It is irrelevant what happens after that. What is technically made available is the online first PDF (which probably never gets archived, but actual archiving isn't actually a Code requirement!)
It is all a big mess but a few things are clear enough.
Cheers,
Stephen
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On Wed, 27/1/16, Laurent Raty <l.raty at skynet.be> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Important note Re: two names online published - one new species
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Received: Wednesday, 27 January, 2016, 9:30 AM
Stephen,
When an early view file issued
in 2015 gets included in a 2016 volumes,
an
original statement "Systematic Entomology (2015), DOI:
10.1111/syen.#####" (as in the
yet-to-be-published file here:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/syen.12157/epdf
) is
*changed* into a statement
"Systematic Entomology (2016), 41, ##-##."
(as in this file:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/syen.12142/epdf
, which is
registered in ZooBank as
being published on 12 Aug 2015:
http://zoobank.org/urn:lsid:zoo
bank.org:pub:38D703ED-127A-4DB0-8153-8D78AF4AC212
).
The year that appears in
this statement in the final file (the only one
that remains) is *not*, nor is even *intended*
to be, the year of
publication of the pdf
file that we are trying here to make "published".
It is the year of publication of the print
run.
And of nothing
else.
Cheers, Laurent -
On 01/26/2016 08:43 PM,
Stephen Thorpe wrote:
> Laurent,
>
> You
are contrasting "in the work itself" with
"metadata", but this
> isnot
necessarily so. Remember that the concept of
"metadata", as used
> here,
didn't exist when the Amendment was drafted. Zhang
just
> subsequently pulled it out of a
hat in order to try to save the
>
Amendment from objections relating to "preliminary
versions". Anyway, if
> you contrast
"in the work itself" instead with "just on
the publisher's
> web page for the
article, or elsewhere", then "Systematic
Entomology
> (2016), 41, 287–297"
is "in the work itself". This seems like a
> reasonable and pragmatic interpretation to
make, which avoids this
> particular
problem.
>
>
Cheers,
>
> Stephen
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