[Taxacom] Paywall our taxonomic tidbit

[Lynn Raw]

I agree with Frank. Surely if the public is paying for the research then the public should have free access to the results, or am I mistaken?


Lynn


> On 14 Jan 2016, at 22:51, Frank T. Krell <Frank.Krell at dmns.org> wrote:
> 
> Disseminating results is an essential part of the scientific endeavor. If public money is intended for research, this includes making the results known.
> 
> You see evil problems everywhere, don't you, Stephen. Even in a $20/page open access charge.
> 
> Frank
> 
> 
> Dr Frank T. Krell
> Curator of Entomology 
> Commissioner, International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature
> Chair, ICZN ZooBank Committee
> Department of Zoology 
> Denver Museum of Nature & Science 
> 2001 Colorado Boulevard 
> Denver, CO 80205-5798 USA 
> Frank.Krell at dmns.org 
> Phone: (+1) (303) 370-8244 
> Fax: (+1) (303) 331-6492 
> http://www.dmns.org/science/museum-scientists/frank-krell
> lab page: http://www.dmns.org/krell-lab
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Thorpe
> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 3:02 PM
> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu; Peter Uetz <peter at uetz.us>
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Paywall our taxonomic tidbit
> 
> Peter Uetz said: Just make your papers available to everybody, not just the few lucky ones
> 
> Not sure if he was being sarcastic? I hope so. It amounts to "just make your papers available to everybody (whether they want to read it or not), not just the few who actually want to read it (and pay for it with public money intended for research!)"
> 
> Stephen
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------
> On Fri, 15/1/16, Peter Uetz <peter at uetz.us> wrote:
> 
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Paywall our taxonomic tidbit
> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Received: Friday, 15 January, 2016, 7:20 AM
> 
> 
> Yes! — Zootaxa is probably the best deal you can get.
> I paid for an open access paper in Zootaxa out of my own  pocket, and this was a single author paper.
> 
> For teams, some of which may have grant money available, it  is a no brainer.
> Just make your papers available to everybody, not just the  few lucky ones.
> Especially if you believe that nothing in biology makes  sense except in the light of taxonomy, sorry..., evolution
> :)
> 
> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 13:58:22 +1300  > From: "Geoff Read" <gread at actrix.gen.nz>  > To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu  > Subject: [Taxacom] Paywall our taxonomic tidbit  > Message-ID:
>>     <88e32d0d97f3055d3f25280814fd767f.squirrel at my.actrix.co.nz>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1  >  > Am I unreasonable in expecting minor contributions to  Zootaxa to be  > affordable for authors as open access as a convenience  for their readers? 
>> For instance that's USD 20 for each author in today's  worst 2 page case!
>> Hopefully they earn (or did) much more that per hour.
>> 
>> http://www.mapress.com/j/zt/article/view/zootaxa.4066.2.5
>> 
>> Happens quite frequently - what are these contributors  thinking? Should we  > perhaps start a fund to help them out?
>> 
>> --
>> Geoffrey B. Read, Ph.D.
>> Wellington, NEW ZEALAND
>> gread at actrix.gen.nz
>> 
>> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Peter Uetz, PhD
> Associate Professor
> Center for the Study of Biological Complexity  Virginia Commonwealth University
> 1015 Floyd Ave
> PO Box 842030
> Richmond, VA 23284
> 
> Ph: 804-827-4573
> 
> http://csbc.vcu.edu/people/
> http://www.vcu.edu/csbc/uetz/uetz2.html
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Taxacom Mailing List
> Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> http://mailman.nhm.ku.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/taxacom
> The Taxacom Archive back to 1992 may be searched at: http://taxacom.markmail.org
> 
> Celebrating 29 years of Taxacom in 2016.
> _______________________________________________
> Taxacom Mailing List
> Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> http://mailman.nhm.ku.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/taxacom
> The Taxacom Archive back to 1992 may be searched at: http://taxacom.markmail.org
> 
> Celebrating 29 years of Taxacom in 2016.
> _______________________________________________
> Taxacom Mailing List
> Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> http://mailman.nhm.ku.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/taxacom
> The Taxacom Archive back to 1992 may be searched at: http://taxacom.markmail.org
> 
> Celebrating 29 years of Taxacom in 2016.