[Taxacom] Fw: Citing Authors for Animals

[Stephen Thorpe]

Actually, in zoology, names above superfamily do not have authors or dates, though this fact is widely misunderstood. I think about it this way: the author and date of a name (superfamily down to subspecies) is not necessarily the date that the name was first published (publication it was first published in). Rather, it is the date that it was first published in a Code compliant way. Since the Code is silent on names above superfamily, there is no such thing as Code compliance for these names. Therefore there is no meaningful author/date.

Stephen

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On Sun, 18/10/15, Tony Rees <tonyrees49 at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Fw: Citing Authors for Animals
 To: "Mary Barkworth" <Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu>
 Cc: "Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu" <Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
 Received: Sunday, 18 October, 2015, 9:09 AM
 
 Hi Mary,
 
 I don't think anyone
 replied to one of your original questions regarding
 citing authorship for higher ranks: yes, these
 also have authors (and
 years), although many
 publications neglect to include them. For example:
 
 (Order) Primates Linnaeus,
 1758
 (Family) Hominidae Gray, 1825
 
 One benefit of this is that it
 permits the discrimination of family-level
 homonyms, of which some exist. Another is that
 it provides a pointer to the
 relevant
 literature in which the names were erected. A third is that
 it
 provides some insight into the historical
 sequence of the taxonomy of the
 group or
 name in question (recent or long-established, etc.)
 
 So I would suggest that even
 where these are absent or unknown in the
 source you are using, you leave a slot for them
 in your database in case
 you want to
 populate these at some time.
 
 Hope this helps,
 
 Best regards - Tony
 
 
 
 On 18 October
 2015 at 05:01, Mary Barkworth <Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu>
 wrote:
 
 > Thank you
 everyone who replied. I feel confident that I can now
 provide
 > the correct information (so
 long as ITIS is correct) to the database I am
 > developing. I appreciate the help.
 >
 > Mary
 >
 > -----Original
 Message-----
 > From: Robin Leech
 [mailto:releech at telus.net]
 > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 11:29
 AM
 > To: 'Adam Cotton' <adamcot at cscoms.com>;
 Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu;
 Mary
 > Barkworth <Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu>
 > Subject: RE: [Taxacom] Fw: Citing Authors
 for Animals
 >
 > Hi
 Mary,
 > Well, zoologists have sub
 species, but also subgenera.
 > So, in
 theorgy you could have Genus, subgenus, species, subspecies
 = 4.
 > It all depends on how much work
 has been done in a group.
 > I think birds
 and beetles may have the most subspecific and subgeneric
 > entries.
 > Robin
 >
 > -----Original
 Message-----
 > From: Taxacom [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu]
 On Behalf Of
 > Adam Cotton
 > Sent: October-17-15 10:50 AM
 > To: Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
 > Subject: [Taxacom] Fw: Citing Authors for
 Animals
 >
 > -----
 Original Message -----
 > From: "Mary
 Barkworth" <Mary.Barkworth at usu.edu>
 > To: <Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
 > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 9:18
 PM
 > Subject: [Taxacom] Citing Authors
 for Animals
 > >
 >
 Also, do zoologists now have only one infraspecific rank,
 subspecies? If
 > not, what does one do
 when one has a trinomial with no indication of what
 > the lowest rank is supposed to be?
 > >
 > > Mary
 > >
 >
 >
 > Mary,
 >
 > Yes, there is only
 one infraspecific rank recognised by the ICZN Code, the
 > subspecies.
 >
 > If you have a trinomial you should assume
 that it is "Genus species
 >
 subspecies", unless the middle name is in () and has a
 capital first letter
 > in which case it
 is "Genus (Subgenus) species".
 >
 > Adam.
 >
 >
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