[Taxacom] Why Defend the Code?
Stephen Thorpe
stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Fri Oct 9 19:12:21 CDT 2015
And that "correspondent in New Zealand" wouldn't be called Rich, by any chance, would they? You know, that well-known, objective, humanitarian/philanthopist ... cough!
Stephen
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On Sat, 10/10/15, Michael A. Ivie <mivie at montana.edu> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Why Defend the Code?
To: "Stephen Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>, "Taxacom List" <TAXACOM at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Received: Saturday, 10 October, 2015, 12:28 PM
Stephen,
Well, since that first line
was taken from an email from a correspondent
in New Zealand, and was not my line, and not
attached to any name,
clearly it must not
apply to you, because after all, you have an
honorary something. You see, Stephen, not
everything is about you.
Mike
On
10/9/2015 5:13 PM, Stephen Thorpe wrote:
> Putting to one side the personal attacks
aimed at me, and the associated false claims (e.g., I do not
have "no position", I have an honorary position),
I actually agree with Mike that "our system of
nomenclature is under attack", and that this is a
problem to be solved. I disagree with Mike that the way to
solve it is to mindlessly defend the Code as it is. The Code
needs to change in order to solve this problem.
Specifically, it needs to be simplified so that increasing
numbers of people don't just throw their hands up in
despair about it and walk away. Claiming that anyone with
half a brain can easily understand the Code is only going to
frustrate those perfectly intelligent people who find it to
be more difficult. Make it easy to do nomenclature, and the
problem will solve itself.
>
> Stephen
>
>
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> On Sat, 10/10/15, Michael A. Ivie <mivie at montana.edu>
wrote:
>
> Subject: [Taxacom] Why Defend
the Code?
> To:
"Taxacom List" <TAXACOM at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Received: Saturday, 10
October, 2015, 12:02 PM
>
> This may have been
precipitated by a
> recent
set of events, but it is
> targeted at a broader group
of messages that put me over the
> edge on the
> last one. No individual
person, living or dead, if
> specifically
> referred to below.
>
> I just received a private
email asking why I would waste my
> time
> challenging someone with no
position, no credibility and
> well known as a
> pedant and seeker of
attention?
>
> Why indeed. Because I am an
educator and a
> systematist. It is time
we
> all wake up to a few
things. First, our system of
> nomenclature is under
> attack. Few students are
given a class in its use,
> most are told the
> rules are difficult and
arcane. This is giving rise to
> a movement to
> simply do away with
compliance.
>
> Second, compliance with our
Code is voluntary. There
> is ZERO
> enforcement available. We
are just a thin line from a
> break to anarchy.
>
> Therefore, when someone wants
to, repeatedly, claim the Code
> is poor, is
> difficult, is not well
thought out, or otherwise in need of
> endless
> negative blather, there are
people who read that.
> Hundreds more are
> exposed to this forum than
ever post to it. If such
> negativity comes
> from someone who projects a
facade of expertise, people may
> even believe
> him or her.
>
> I understand the Code is not
perfect, but it does
> work. It does require
> diligence, and takes time
from other activities that may be
> more fun,
> but it is not that hard. We
need to reinforce in the
> minds of our
> peers, and especially the
younger members of our profession,
> that using
> the Code is what is expected,
and it is not something to
> dread. And,
> when mindless attacks are
made claiming it is defective,
> difficult or
> irrelevant, we must defend it
vociferously.
>
> Mike
>
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