[Taxacom] Help with finding a paper

[Stephen Thorpe]

I have long speculated that a primary goal of keeping science funding flowing through the system explains most/all of the economics. With that as the primary goal, what the funding is actually spent on is very much a secondary concern. Many institutions "recoup overheads" from public science funding. So for every dollar that they can spend on a subscription, the institution might gain a dollar, and nobody has to do any actual science, so everybody (institution, scientist, publisher) wins, except for the public! I speculate that this is what is really driving "Open Access", and possibly also the growing restrictions on sending specimens between countries (so the taxonomist has to travel to the specimen, paid for by public science funding!)

Stephen

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On Thu, 8/10/15, Dean Pentcheff <pentcheff at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Help with finding a paper
 To: "Fred Schueler" <bckcdb at istar.ca>
 Cc: "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu" <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>, "David Seburn" <davidseburn at sympatico.ca>
 Received: Thursday, 8 October, 2015, 11:47 AM
 
 I speculate that it has
 nothing to do with taxonomists or environmental
 consultants. Both of those constituencies are
 so tiny and commercially
 trivial that they
 simply don't count when publishers develop policies.
 
 The people who can pay are
 commercial biomedical and industrial
 researchers. Their ability to pay (and their
 corporation's legal obligation
 to do so)
 drives the system.
 
 -Dean
 -- 
 Dean Pentcheff
 pentcheff at gmail.com
 
 On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:20
 PM, Fred Schueler <bckcdb at istar.ca>
 wrote:
 
 > many have
 written:
 >
 > Hello all
 - I am having trouble getting a copy of the following paper
 from
 >> my usual sources...
 >>
 >
 > * somebody should study who is willing to
 pay $39 for a paper they've only
 >
 known through the publisher's website abstract - if they
 know it's really
 > good they must
 have known somebody who has the pdf or an institutional
 > subscription, and gotten a copy that way,
 and otherwise they just ask
 > TAXACOM.
 >
 > You'd assume it
 would be commercial consultants who would be willing to
 > just click $39 away, but in their
 environmental assessments they never seem
 > to cite anything from the peer-reviewed
 literature. A real mystery - maybe
 > the
 publishers just put those whacking great prices on the
 individual
 > articles to keep libraries
 terrified into paying the whacking great prices
 > for subscriptions.
 >
 > does anyone know?
 >
 > fred.
 >
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