[Taxacom] Intellectual rights

[Stephen Thorpe]

Jack,

Sounds all very sweet, except "citation burden"! Since when is citation a burden? An assertion without citation or other supporting evidence is worthless. It isn't about being right, it is about being able to prove it.

Stephen

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On Mon, 14/12/15, John Longino <jacklongino at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Intellectual rights
 To: Taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
 Received: Monday, 14 December, 2015, 9:44 AM
 
 I started posting random
 taxonomic info and suggestions on a website a long time ago,
 much like Brian Taylor’s, but I had a different attitude.
 I felt a personal website was a great way to capture all
 those little taxonomic nuggets that weren’t part of a
 peer-reviewed work. To me it was sort of a taxonomic
 “freebie bin” that people (including myself) could mine
 for bits of info without feeling obligated to treat it as a
 formal publication. No citation burden. If people wanted to
 thank me in the acknowledgments or something, great, but no
 expectation or obligation. I’m happy to keep it that way.
 Taxonomy needs more peer review, not less. 
 
 Jack Longino
 University of Utah
 
 
 On Dec 13, 2015, at 3:09 AM,
 Dr Brian Taylor <dr.brian.taylor at ntlworld.com>
 wrote:
 
 > Hello all,
 > 
 > I wonder if any of
 you have any suggestions as to how to deal with a
 > publication on Zookeys where the authors
 claim to have separated a
 > previously
 well known ³species² into being a new junior synonym of
 two other
 > species.  I ask this
 because, after examining fresh specimens, I posted that
 > synonymization on my two websites, both
 archived by the British Library Web
 >
 Archive, in 2009. The main website has been on-line in an
 evolving form
 > since 1998.  The Zookeys
 authors make no reference of any sort to my works.
 > They and other researchers from the
 organisation in question, headed by the
 >
 subject editor for the present instance, have published a
 number of papers
 > in Zootaxa and Zookeys
 over the past seven years or so but not once have
 > they listed my sites as a source of
 information.  Many others have.  In
 >
 2011, an author who the Zookeys writers do cite, wrote of my
 finding of the
 > synonymy and had my
 website among his references.
 > 
 > In the BZN Discussion on Electronic
 Publication, March 2009, I previsaged
 >
 this situation by posing the questions ³What constitutes a
 publication? Who
 > is a publisher?². I
 note that UK copyright law the content of a website is
 > automatically protected and does not have
 to be registered as there is no
 >
 register.
 > 
 > Thanks
 in anticipation of your responses.
 > 
 > Brian Taylor
 > 
 > www.antsofafrica.org
 >
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