[Taxacom] Twitter Fwd: Nature needs names: 60 new dragonflies from Africa

Sun Dec 13 06:39:23 CST 2015

Thanks, Daniel!  This week is crazy, but when the dust settles, I will likely take you up on your offer to help!

MANY thanks!

Rich

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Mietchen [mailto:daniel.mietchen at googlemail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 2:21 AM
> To: Richard Pyle
> Cc: Scott Thomson; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu; gread at actrix.gen.nz
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Twitter Fwd: Nature needs names: 60 new dragonflies
> from Africa
> 
> The length of a URL does not matter on Twitter any more - they shorten all of
> them anyway, taking up 23 characters. With a space or newline, this leaves 116
> for content (including hashtags).
> 
> I am running an IFTT bot with similar scope ( https://twitter.com/wikiredlist )
> and would be happy to help set up a pipeline for ZooBank et al.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Richard Pyle
> <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org> wrote:
> > Hi Scott,
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, I understood exactly what your point was on the Family thing, and I FULLY
> agree with it.  My point was that ZooBank lacks the ability to link a species to a
> family, because ZooBank is nomenclatural.  The underlying database (GNUB)
> certainly does have that ability, but it would need a robust meta-authority (like
> CoL) to provide a family (or any higher classification) in association with any new
> name registered in ZooBank.
> >
> >
> >
> > Aloha,
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Scott Thomson [mailto:scott.thomson321 at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 2:01 AM
> > To: Richard Pyle
> > Cc: Stephen Thorpe; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu; gread at actrix.gen.nz
> > Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Twitter Fwd: Nature needs names: 60 new
> > dragonflies from Africa
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Richard,
> >
> >
> >
> > yes anything that can be turned into a url will work, it is just so it clicks through
> to the desired record. My point on the family group name was not
> nomenclatural, nor for nomenclatural reasons. It was so that people could read
> the tweet and identify what taxonomic group was being discussed, then either
> ignore it or click it depending on their interests. Species, or genus works also.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok Facebook..... both a nemesis and a useful thing. It requires maintenance
> and this would be the biggest downside. Anyone can post to it unless you exact
> strong control over this, which you can do so you would have to carefully set it
> up. On the upside, they can, used well, be good advertising for Zoobank and the
> ICZN, will get those names out there far better than a website will these days. It
> puts the ICZN and Zoobank in the face of the people. Which I believe could be
> good for the ICZN. I just saw your message below to Rod while typing this, yes
> twitter is not as popular as it used to be. The text restriction being a big issue,
> and this is one of the reasons Facebook has become so popular.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Google + very specific version of Facebook, some think more professional,
> sorry but its same old same old, just not done as well with a lack of cross
> browser support. However still worth doing. For my blog whenever I add new
> articles it automatically sends messages to twitter, facebook, google + I get more
> hits from Facebook than anywhere else. I get 2500 unique visitors a year, over
> half from Facebook.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers, Scott
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Richard Pyle
> <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org> wrote:
> >
> > OK, thanks for the elaboration.  The LSIDs are long and cumbersome; I prefer
> the 36-character UUIDs; especially when formulating an HTTP URL.  It would be
> redundant to have both the link and the LSID/UUID; so we could include the
> taxon name and/or citation of the reference and/or author name (depending on
> what the registration is).
> >
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, a family can only be included for family-group names.  The link
> between a genus- or species-group name and a family is a matter of taxonomy,
> not nomenclature; and ZooBank is (sort of) limited to nomenclature.  However,
> this could be a perfect collaboration with Catalog of Life, where ZooBank pipes
> new names to COL as they come in, and likewise can perform a service to link
> genus/species names to a higher classification (including family).
> >
> >
> >
> > Maybe there should also be a ZooBank Facebook page? What other social
> > media pipelines would be appropriate (does anyone actually use Google+
> > ?)
> >
> >
> >
> > Someday…. If only there were unlimited funding and unlimited hours in
> > the day…
> >
> >
> >
> > Aloha,
> >
> > Rich
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Scott Thomson [mailto:scott.thomson321 at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2015 1:32 AM
> > To: Richard Pyle
> > Cc: Stephen Thorpe; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu; gread at actrix.gen.nz
> > Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Twitter Fwd: Nature needs names: 60 new
> > dragonflies from Africa
> >
> >
> >
> > To keep it non political, and simple, tweet the LSID's as a daily new papers.
> along with the Family name to make it obvious what group is discussed. People
> can click the link for details. No need to use all the characters, just keep it simple.
> >
> >
> >
> > Was not saying this should be done by the way, just an option based on what
> Doug was saying. Not everyone uses RSS, likewise not everyone uses Twitter.
> However tweeting the LSID's may encourage journals to register with Zoobank
> better as it will be effective advertising for them.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers, Scott
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Richard Pyle
> <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Doug's other point of some twitter feed or something listing
> >> papers, effectively, could not Zoobank effectively do that under a
> >> twitter account #Zoobank that does a daily "whats new":
> >
> > ZooBank already has an RSS feed; would a separate Twitter feed be useful?
> How best to use the 140 characters?  A core ZooBank URL is minimally 55
> characters ("http://zoobank.org/" + 36 characters for the UUID -- though we
> could strip the dashes and make it 51 characters total).  How best to use the
> remaining characters?
> >
> > Please bear in mind that I only vaguely understand what Twitter is.... (I
> develop sophisticated databases, and cutting-edge diving technology; but I'm a
> total luddite when it comes to social media).
> >
> > Aloha,
> > Rich
> >
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