[Taxacom] Fwd: Nature needs names: 60 new dragonflies from Africa
Stephen Thorpe
stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Fri Dec 11 21:16:15 CST 2015
Thanks Peter (note that I make sure to spell your name correctly),
Luckily I have a thick skin, and am almost totally impossible to offend. You appear to have completely misread me on this. I'm not trying to "shit" on anybody's achievements. I was just pointing out that this particular article appears to have gotten a great deal of media attention (something that didn't "just happen", but which was engineered), but it is in reality nothing special. It seems a bit hard on those taxonomists who quietly work hard and make more of a contribution (not me, by the way, I don't describe new taxa) to see stuff that is no better than what they do be the object of a big media blitz. Taxonomy is valuable, but not really "newsworthy".
Cheers,
Stephen
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On Sat, 12/12/15, Peter Halasz <list at pengo.org> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Fwd: Nature needs names: 60 new dragonflies from Africa
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Received: Saturday, 12 December, 2015, 3:15 PM
Steven,
Naively, I would have to
assume you write to this list because you want to
disrupt it and shit on people's
achievements. Naively, I would have to
assume you are also happy to get your name
known as that of a troll because
you hate
your father and want his name muddied as a weird,
masochistic form
of revenge. Naively I would
assume you are paid to write to this list by
the number of people you frustrate.
This is a cognitive bias
called correspondent inference, where you assume
someone's motivations are to do exactly
what the results of their actions
are. If
someone slams a door and the room goes quiet, then you
assume they
slammed the door because they
wanted quiet. And John Grehan has already
pointed out how this has plays out for you.
I'm not naive. I assume
good faith in peoples actions because to jealously
ascribe motivations of power and money to
someone for getting media
attention for
their 15 years of work in describing 60 dragonflies is
the
most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.
I find it nonsensical to talk of
getting
media attention as if science communication is somehow
antithetical
to science.
If you have nothing constructive to say, why
say anything at all, unless
your goal is to
be a troll or to have a pissing contest over who
described
the most species in one
publication? If you cannot assume some good faith
of others then I'm certainly not going to
do it for you.
If you think
the media is too "dodgy" to save the Earth then go
work on
your Earth-saving machine in your
basement. I'd love to hear about it but I
wouldn't want you to promote yourself by
talking about it or showing any
one. So
please don't.
Thanks
Peter
Halasz
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