[Taxacom] Binomial Nomenclature - was: "cataloguing hypotheses & not real things"

[Michael A. Ivie]

Dinosaur people already do this, over 90% of their genera are monotypic,
so the genus is redundant and there is really only a uninomical.  Any
suggestions that biologists do things the way dino people do it should be
avoided.

> On 9/1/2013 4:32 PM, Stephen Thorpe wrote:
>> Binomial nomenclature could be interpreted in a uninomial way, i.e., the
>> genus is just part of the name and carries no "baggage" (i.e. hypothesis
>> or extra information)
>
> * that's what we proposed in 1972 - my point was that it would look like
> it carried information. The point of the transition from polynomial to
> binomial names was mnemonic - and a transition to uninominal practice
> would still preserve the appearance of binominalism - nobody would be
> able to tell that Rana-pipiens and Rana-aurora were now in different
> genera - though on the other hand one could have a convention of putting
> a changed generic name in brackets after the uninominal name so that
> they'd be written as Rana-pipiens [Lithobates] and Rana-aurora - so
> maybe my objection isn't as cogent as I thought it was.
>
> fred.
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>
>
>> *From:* Fred Schueler <bckcdb at istar.ca>
>> *To:* taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
>> *Sent:* Monday, 2 September 2013 1:26 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Taxacom] Binomial Nomenclature - was: "cataloguing
>> hypotheses & not real things"
>>
>> On 9/1/2013 8:18 AM, Fred Schueler wrote:
>>  > On 9/1/2013 5:58 AM, Dan Lahr wrote:
>>  >
>>  >> One of the things that I often wonder is why nobody ever suggested a
>> more
>>  >> logical, parsimonious and I suspect bioinformatics friendlier (not
>> my area,
>>  >> can someone confirm?) transition to uninomial nomenclature.
>>  >
>>  > nobody? - Rising, James D., and Frederick W.  Schueler.  1972.  How
>>  > stable is binominal nomenclature?  Systematic Zoology 21:438-439 -
>> it's
>>  > been suggested many times, it's just that adoption would require
>> large
>>  > numbers of taxonomists to agree on something, which runs counter to
>> the
>>  > spirit of the Codes.
>>
>> * and just as a final comment for today, the big problem with uninominal
>> nomenclature is that the only plausible starting point for it is a
>> hypenation or something of the existing binominal names (Rising &
>> Schueler, 1972), which would fix forever the existing generic
>> arrangements in the minds of the taxonomically naive users, who are
>> supposed to be the main beneficiary of uninominal names...
>>
>> fred.
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>           Frederick W. Schueler & Aleta Karstad
> Bishops Mills Natural History Centre - http://pinicola.ca/bmnhc.htm
> Mudpuppy Night in Oxford Mills - http://pinicola.ca/mudpup1.htm
> Daily Paintings - http://karstaddailypaintings.blogspot.com/
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