[Taxacom] Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: open access

[Kirill Mikhailov]

Dear Colleagues,

KMK Sci. Press (Moscow, Russia) journals will be open-accessed since
2014, with no payment at all. Arthropoda Selecta, Russian
Entomological Journal, Acarina, Russian Journal of Theriology,
Invertebrate Zoology, Arctoa, etc.

Sincerely,

Kirill Mikhailov,
the Publisher

2013/10/25, Michael Heads <m.j.heads at gmail.com>:
> Dear Donat,
>
> US$ 20/page is $400 for a 20 page paper. If you write three a year that's
> $US1200 - every year.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Donat Agosti <agosti at amnh.org>
> Date: Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [Taxacom] Fwd: Fwd: open access
> To: Michael Heads <m.j.heads at gmail.com>, taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
>
>
> BUT: The charge for open access in the taxonomists high profile journals
> (Zootaxa, Zookeys, Biodiversity Data Journal, etc.) is about USD20 per
> page. They are as decent, and the Pensoft journals (eg Zookeys, Phytokeys,
> etc.) are among the technologically most advanced journals in the world
> (more than PLoS journals), and are also part of the huge PubMed and
> PubMedCentral, thus at par with all the biomedical journals, and archived
> as well.
> So, Open Access publishing is not expensive in our domain, and well beyond
> the average.
> Donat
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:
> taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Heads
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 11:16 AM
> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: [Taxacom] Fwd: Fwd: open access
>
> Hi Quentin,
>
> The study you cited found an average fee of $US 906, but their survey
> included many local journals. Decent international journals charge more,
> e.g. PLoS One is $1350, BMC Evol Biol is $2060. I've never paid page
> charges in my life and as I don't have one of Paul's typical research
> grants of half a million I certainly won't be publishing in these journals.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Michael Heads <m.j.heads at gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Fwd: open access
> To: Quentin Groom <quentin.groom at br.fgov.be>
>
>
> The study you cite found an average fee of $US 906, but their survey
> included many local journals. Decent international journals charge more,
> e.g. PLoS One is $1350, BMC Evol Biol is $2060. I've never paid page
> charges in my life and as I don't have one of Paul's typical research
> grants of half a million I certainly won't be publishing in these journals.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Quentin Groom <quentin.groom at br.fgov.be
>>wrote:
>
>> Michael,
>> the belief that Open Access cost thousands of dollars is a myth.
>>
>> See Solomon, D. J. and Björk, B.-C. (2012), A study of open access
>> journals using article processing charges. J. Am. Soc. Inf. Sci., 63:
>> 1485–1495. doi: 10.1002/asi.22673
>> Although this article is closed access the abstract tells you enough.
>>
>> Also see a summary at http://t.co/TJURqTfmQy
>>
>> Regards
>> Quentin Groom
>>
>> Michael Heads wrote:
>> > ‘If you look at less wealthy countries like low and middle income
>> > countries,  they really really struggle to get access and so that’s
>> > a
>> real
>> > impediment that prevents researchers in those countries from being
>> > able
>> to
>> > either contribute or do world class research’. So if you charge
>> > thousands of US dollars to publish one paper that will help them
> contribute?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ‘Even with  my brother starting the public library of science...’ –
>> > so no conflict of interest there then...
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Donat Agosti <agosti at amnh.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> Here is a splendid clip on open access, well worth to spend a
>> >> couple of minutes
>> >>
>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5rVH1KGBCY#t=170
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Enjoy, and think about what it means for our domain
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Donat
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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