[Taxacom] Fwd: Fwd: open access

Fri Oct 25 04:36:02 CDT 2013

Check the European Journal of Taxonomy, where neither authors nor readers
have to pay fees.
http://www.europeanjournaloftaxonomy.eu/index.php/ejt

On 25 October 2013 11:30, Donat Agosti <agosti at amnh.org> wrote:

> BUT: The charge for open access in the taxonomists high profile journals
> (Zootaxa, Zookeys, Biodiversity Data Journal, etc.) is about USD20 per
> page. They are as decent, and the Pensoft journals (eg Zookeys, Phytokeys,
> etc.) are among the technologically most advanced journals in the world
> (more than PLoS journals), and are also part of the huge PubMed and
> PubMedCentral, thus at par with all the biomedical journals, and archived
> as well.
> So, Open Access publishing is not expensive in our domain, and well beyond
> the average.
> Donat
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:
> taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Michael Heads
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 11:16 AM
> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: [Taxacom] Fwd: Fwd: open access
>
> Hi Quentin,
>
> The study you cited found an average fee of $US 906, but their survey
> included many local journals. Decent international journals charge more,
> e.g. PLoS One is $1350, BMC Evol Biol is $2060. I've never paid page
> charges in my life and as I don't have one of Paul's typical research
> grants of half a million I certainly won't be publishing in these journals.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Michael Heads <m.j.heads at gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Fwd: open access
> To: Quentin Groom <quentin.groom at br.fgov.be>
>
>
> The study you cite found an average fee of $US 906, but their survey
> included many local journals. Decent international journals charge more,
> e.g. PLoS One is $1350, BMC Evol Biol is $2060. I've never paid page
> charges in my life and as I don't have one of Paul's typical research
> grants of half a million I certainly won't be publishing in these journals.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 9:28 PM, Quentin Groom <quentin.groom at br.fgov.be
> >wrote:
>
> > Michael,
> > the belief that Open Access cost thousands of dollars is a myth.
> >
> > See Solomon, D. J. and Björk, B.-C. (2012), A study of open access
> > journals using article processing charges. J. Am. Soc. Inf. Sci., 63:
> > 1485–1495. doi: 10.1002/asi.22673
> > Although this article is closed access the abstract tells you enough.
> >
> > Also see a summary at http://t.co/TJURqTfmQy
> >
> > Regards
> > Quentin Groom
> >
> > Michael Heads wrote:
> > > ‘If you look at less wealthy countries like low and middle income
> > > countries,  they really really struggle to get access and so that’s
> > > a
> > real
> > > impediment that prevents researchers in those countries from being
> > > able
> > to
> > > either contribute or do world class research’. So if you charge
> > > thousands of US dollars to publish one paper that will help them
> contribute?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ‘Even with  my brother starting the public library of science...’ –
> > > so no conflict of interest there then...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Donat Agosti <agosti at amnh.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> Here is a splendid clip on open access, well worth to spend a
> > >> couple of minutes
> > >>
> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5rVH1KGBCY#t=170
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Enjoy, and think about what it means for our domain
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Donat
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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