[Taxacom] Global Names Index

Thu Oct 24 15:48:13 CDT 2013

Well, yes, but I'm not sure how far they have got digitising Zoo Record? At any rate, they are particularly bad at tracking taxonomic changes like new combinations, and there are random gaps and other major problems. Quite how accurate the metrics are is anyone's guess!

Stephen

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To: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz> 
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ION is much more extensive than this, see http://www.organismnames.com/metrics.htm?page=graphs   

Most of its content comes from digitisation of Zoological Record, the corresponding volume is often displayed on the web site, e.g. http://www.organismnames.com/details.htm?lsid=3785435 is from Zoological Record 37 . You can see the original record in a copy scanned by Google, see https://archive.org/stream/zoologicalrecor09londgoog#page/n191/mode/1up  

Regards

Rod

On 24 Oct 2013, at 05:50, Stephen Thorpe wrote:

As I understand it, ION (the free version) only has names starting from about 1977 (or earlier ones only if they were cited in post-1976 articles). So, if I am correct, you are unlikely to find a pre-1977 name that has not been cited after 1976 ..
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>Hi Stephen,
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>I wonder what proportion of animal names you would guess are missing from ION (http://www.organismnames.com/) ? I would have expected it to be fairly complete being based on citations from Zoological Record since 1864 (with additions from Index Animalium), but do not really know.
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>I do know there is (or at least used to be) an issue with duplicate names under slightly variant authorities in some cases (i.e. double counting or more), but maybe that is improving...
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>Luis,
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>The answer to your first question is 'no'! One problem is that it is
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>impossible to disentangle nominal species (=species names) from names
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>for recognised taxa (species). You would have to track all synonymies
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>(many of which would be disputed anyway), and you would be left with a
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>mixture of names which apply to recognised species plus names which may
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>or may not apply to recognised species, and it would require taxonomic
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>revision to sort out which was which. So, unless you can revise
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>everything taxonomically in an undisputed way, there is no way to
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>answer your question! As for your second question, ION would come
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>closest, but it is not comprehensive.
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>Stephen
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>Is there a way to know/estimate how many animal species are described?
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>I'm not talking about how many species are supposed to be out there,
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>how many are actually described?
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>And another question: Is there a database with scientific names ONLY
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>animals? (like Global Names Index which lists ALL sort of scientifc
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>Thanks.
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