[Taxacom] Wikipedia politics: the future don't look so bright

Stephen Thorpe stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Wed Nov 20 14:46:50 CST 2013


It isn't! Paul made a vague ad hominem attack aimed at me (with sarcasm about my being a botanist). I am offering to address the actual issues behind his remark, which no doubt involve Taxacom standard fare like paraphyly vs. pragmatism and bio data management

Stephen


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From: Jim Croft <jim.croft at gmail.com>
To: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz> 
Cc: JF Mate <aphodiinaemate at gmail.com>; Taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu> 
Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Wikipedia politics: the future don't look so bright


If it is about taxonomy, we do. If it is about personality, posturing,
and ad hominem point scoring, take it off list.

jim

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:31 AM, Stephen Thorpe
<stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz> wrote:
> Oh yeah, we don't want any of that 'rational debate' nonsense on Taxacom, do we?
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: JF Mate <aphodiinaemate at gmail.com>
> To: Taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, 21 November 2013 9:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Wikipedia politics: the future don't look so bright
>
>
> Yup. I think we have just hit rock bottom. Can´t you guys resolve this in
> private before the outside world finds out?
>
> Best
>
> Jason
>
>
> On 20 November 2013 20:23, Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>> I'll happily take you on in a one-on-one rational debate on Taxacom
>> regarding any specific issue relating to your vague comment below. Bring it
>> on!
>> Stephen
>>
>> From: Paul van Rijckevorsel <dipteryx at freeler.nl>
>> To: Taxacom <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
>> Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2013 9:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Wikipedia politics: the future don't look so bright
>>
>>
>> From: "Stephen Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:39 AM
>>
>> > I am talking Wikipedia here, not Wikispecies. FYI, there are bunches of
>> > Wikipedia editors conspiring to obtain absolute control over content.
>> They
>> > are also not at all happy about the fact that Wikispecies is way ahead of
>> > them in biodiversity stuff, and are lobbying (hopefully unsuccessfully)
>> to
>> > get it shut down. Our old "friend" Stemonitis actually seems something of
>> > a moderate compared to these others!
>>
>> ***
>> It might have been helpful to include a link. This appears to be
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Plants&oldid=582471403#Wikispecies
>>
>> Long story short, Stephen Thorpe, being the expert on botany
>> that he is, has decided to set back the clock on Wikispecies
>> by four years, to the position that Wikispecies had been
>> struggling to escape for the four years prior to that.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
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