[Taxacom] Cyanoprokaryota help

Thu Mar 14 20:13:09 CDT 2013

Hi again, 

In addition to my last comment. Cyanoprokaryota was introduced by Komárek & Anagnostidis 1999. I guess Komarek uses the term to support his idea about a separate nomenclatural code. Unless i'm wrong, the cyanobacteria are still included as algae in the  International Code of Nomenclature for algae, fungi, and plants. Under this code, the name at the rank of Division for this group must end in -phycota, (not -phyta as Cyanophyta) Article. 16.3. Then Cyanoprokaryota is invalid.

The term is used interchangeably in several works as Tony says. But for many taxonomist the nomenclature must be clarified.  

Unfortunatelly there is no agreement, and even in AlgaeBase,  a widely used reference, the name for this group is Cyanobacteria Stanier ex T.Cavalier-Smith 2002
(http://www.algaebase.org/browse/taxonomy/detail/?taxonid=4305&sk=0)

Regards. Sergio Díaz

Comisión Nacional para el Conocimiento y Uso de la Biodiversidad.
México, D.F.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Rees" <Tony.Rees at csiro.au>
To: "john steel" <john.steel at botany.otago.ac.nz>, taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Sent: Jueves, 14 de Marzo 2013 18:09:58
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Cyanoprokaryota help

Hi John,

Cyanobacteria and Cyanoprokaryota can be used interchangeably, e.g. see:

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=CphA8hiwaFIC&pg=PA47&lpg=PA47&dq=cyanoprokaryota

In my experience Cyanobacteria is still commonly used e.g. in phylogenetic trees

(example: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v462/n7276/fig_tab/nature08656_F1.html) 

although I could have missed a more recent trend...

"Cyanobacteria" became prominent in the late 1970s-80s as an alternative to the less phylogenetically correct "blue green algae" e.g. see:

http://books.google.com.au/books/about/The_Biology_of_Cyanobacteria.html?id=zbX39nuSOMUC

I cannot give equivalent info about "Cyanoprokaryota", maybe someone else can...

Regards - Tony

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xcellent! Thank you Sergio.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sergio Diaz Martinez [mailto:sdiaz at conabio.gob.mx]
Sent: Friday, 15 March 2013 11:39 a.m.
To: John Steel
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Cyanoprokaryota help

i almost forgot! visit http://www.cyanodb.cz/ this page has much information about cianobacteria.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sergio Diaz Martinez" <sdiaz at conabio.gob.mx>
To: "John Steel" <john.steel at botany.otago.ac.nz>
Sent: Jueves, 14 de Marzo 2013 16:35:11
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Cyanoprokaryota help

As i remember, the term was introduced as Cyanoprokaryota by KOMÁREK & ANAGNOSTIDIS 1999. This group has been subject of diferent treatments. Komarek propouse that they must have an independent nomenclatural code from bacteria and plants! Maybe with the authority of the name you could find more clues!

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Steel" <john.steel at botany.otago.ac.nz>
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Sent: Jueves, 14 de Marzo 2013 16:19:47
Subject: [Taxacom] Cyanoprokaryota help

I have introduced cyanobacteria (as opposed to bacteria) as a microscope exercise for the introduction to my plant identification course as I see a growing interest in them. A student then asked me about cyanoprokaryota as he had heard that was being used to emphasise the differences from eubacteria. I had to confess not having heard of the term and since then I have been having difficulty in finding the source of this term and therefore the reasoning behind it even though it is not infrequently used in journal articles.  If anyone can point me in the right direction, I would be grateful.

John Steel.

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> I have introduced cyanobacteria (as opposed to bacteria) as a
> microscope exercise for the introduction to my plant identification
> course as I see a growing interest in them. A student then asked me
> about cyanoprokaryota as he had heard that was being used to emphasise
> the differences from eubacteria. I had to confess not having heard of
> the term and since then I have been having difficulty in finding the
> source of this term and therefore the reasoning behind it even though
> it is not infrequently used in journal articles.  If anyone can point
> me in the right direction, I would be grateful.
> 
> 
> 
> John Steel.
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