[Taxacom] Your input, please, on attribution, rights and licensing of names and compilations of names

[Stephen Thorpe]

Yes, but we ought not to be going even further down that road! We need to start pulling back from all that crap and say to them "you got paid to provide us with this information, now it is ours to do with what we will" ...

 
This is why, on Wikispecies, I ultimately intend to dispense with any reference to secondary aggregators, and simply verify as much as possible from primary sources. The downside is that it takes a long time. On the other hand, one does tend to uncover errors in the aggregators' data...
 
Stephen 
 

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From: "Tony.Rees at csiro.au" <Tony.Rees at csiro.au>
To: stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz; dpatterson at mbl.edu; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu 
Sent: Wednesday, 6 March 2013 11:58 AM
Subject: RE: [Taxacom] Your input, please, on attribution, rights and licensing of names and compilations of names

Hi Stephen,

Yes, but you miss the point that a number of significant taxonomic data compilations are presently *not* public domain/open access (although no doubt persons would like them to be). See for example:

http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/info/copyright

http://www.theplantlist.org/terms/ (no derivatives, no commercial use)

http://www.organismnames.com/terms.htm

and more...


This is of course in contrast to other exemplar systems (ITIS, GRIN, no doubt more) who make it easy to download their data (see http://www.itis.gov/ftp_download.html, http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/index.pl?view=downl&language=en) and impose no retrictions on its re-use.

- Tony

> -----Original Message-----
> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:taxacom-
> bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen Thorpe
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 March 2013 9:30 AM
> To: David Patterson; TAXACOM
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Your input, please, on attribution, rights and
> licensing of names and compilations of names
> 
> Well now! I guess given the number of greedy and territorial people out
> there, some of whom are taxonomists, this audacious attempt to take
> data out of the public domain was bound to raise its ugly head at some
> stage! Quoting from the link you gave:
> 
> [quote]Many taxonomists desire that their efforts are recognized, and
> some are fearful that open access to their efforts will allow others to
> gain credit for the work that they have done[unquote]
> 
> It is quite simple. If you are lucky enough, unlike me, to get paid for
> compiling information on names/taxa, then that is all you get. You have
> effectively been paid to put the information into the public domain.
> You no longer have any control over it. If you don't like that, then
> don't accept the money and don't do it ... simple! Or, if like me, you
> are interested in the stuff, and want to make a contribution to public
> domain knowledge, then do it without pay, and without control over who
> uses the data for what purpose.
> 
> The very last thing we need is people taking control over this sort of
> secondary data. That would be COMPLETELY contrary to open access
> knowledge ...
> 
> Stephen
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: David Patterson <dpatterson at mbl.edu>
> To: TAXACOM <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 March 2013 11:07 AM
> Subject: [Taxacom] Your input, please, on attribution, rights and
> licensing of names and compilations of names
> 
> The Global Names project will host a workshop to explore options and to
> make recommendations as to  issues that relate to Attribution, Rights
> and
> Licensing of names and compilations of names.  The aim of the workshop
> is a
> report that clarifies if and how we share names.
> 
> 
> We seek submissions from all interested parties - nomenclaturalists,
> taxonomists, aggregators, and users of names. Let us know what (you
> think)
> intellectual property rights apply or what rights should be associated
> with names and compilations of names.  How can those who compile names
> get
> useful attribution for names, and what responsibilities do they have to
> ensure that information is authoritative.  If there are rights, what
> kind
> of licensing is appropriate.
> 
> 
> The submissions will be considered by those attending the workshop.
> 
> 
> 
> Contributions can be submitted
> http://names-attribution-rights-and-licensing.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page,
> where you will find more information about this event.
> 
> 
> Thankyou
> 
> 
> David Patterson
> globalnames.org
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