[Taxacom] Vital study of an organism on planet Earth
Barry Roth
barry_roth at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 18 10:43:40 CDT 2012
As for sinister, I bend before Robin's erudition. But I think we are worrying about the same trend.
Barry
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From: "Robinwbruce at aol.com" <Robinwbruce at aol.com>
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Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Vital study of an organism on planet Earth
'Sinister sub-test' ? Hmm. I think I would file under 'foolish
notion' sensu Burns, R. 1786, to a louse, final verse. The problem with foolish
notions is that if they are not identified as such, they quickly morph
and multiply into 'Extraordinary popular delusions [and the madness of
crowds]' sensu Mackay, C. 1841.
However there is a sub-text that I sense, and it is worrying;
biology now largely seems to have become a post-taxonomic and
post-organismal 'science'.
Cheers
Robin
In a message dated 6/17/2012 2:25:29 A.M. GMT Daylight Time,
barry_roth at yahoo.com writes:
Fully agree with Geoff on this, and the sinister subtext is that taxon-driven research programmes are somehow inferior, not-to-be-named.
>
>On Jun 16,
2012, at 5:56 PM, "Geoff Read" <gread at actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
>>
Thanks Michael,
>>
>>
>> Oh the folly of it. Why is this
irritating vagueness done? My theory is
>> that it's a misguided attempt
to make the research seem so transcending in
>> results and importance
that the actual taxa don't matter. Well they do] -
>> every time.
This work, poorly keyworded, would not have been easily found
>> by the
few people it's most relevant to - the bryozoologists (except
>> Stephen
has now helped them out).
>>
>> In your example there is a natural
point in the abstract flow where the
>> family could be revealed. It
isn't. Grrrh!
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>>
>> On Sat, June
16, 2012 7:18 pm, Michael Heads wrote:
>>> Hi Geoff,
>>>
>>> I had to laugh when I saw your link. Here's another
one:
>>>
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v438/n7065/abs/nature04057.html
>>>
>>> It's quite a common style now, but really annoying. Pierre
Jolivet was
>>> complaining about it a while ago. Editors tell you not
to mention the name
>>> of an organsm in the title - apparently it
isn't good for sales. So if you
>>> don't mention it in the abstract,
that makes it even better...
>>>
>>> Michael
Heads
>>> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 4:21 PM, Geoff Read
<gread at actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, the title, abstract and even the keywords won't give
away what
>>>> it's
>>>> about. But if you have access
and you go to page 2 at the bottom we
>>>> promise that there will
be a taxon name mentioned, and you then can
>>>>
decide
>>>> whether you are further interested. And living
things all really work
>>>> the
>>>> same way, don't
they, same basic principles, so it's not as if doing
>>>>
that
>>>> will waste anyone's time.
>>>>
>>>> http://dx.doi.org/10.1890/11-1448.1
>>>>
>>>> We hope this style catches on.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> The
authors
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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