[Taxacom] Open Access taxonomy

Wed May 25 12:48:25 CDT 2011

There are several initiatives dealing with access to literature produced by professional (commercial) publishers in the developing world, see http://www.blackwellpublishing.com/press/corporate.asp
You still need to be affiliated to an institution with an administration interested in providing services.

I think it needs much more than just literature access to make taxonomy a viable career choice in developing countries, for example university training at universities, well-paid, secure jobs for taxonomists. (Not that this is a problem of developing countries alone - we all are increasingly developing).

Frank

Dr Frank T. Krell 
Curator of Entomology 
Commissioner, International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature
Chair, ICZN ZooBank Committee
Department of Zoology 
Denver Museum of Nature & Science 
2001 Colorado Boulevard 
Denver, CO 80205-5798 USA 
Frank.Krell at dmns.org 
Phone: (+1) (303) 370-8244 
Fax: (+1) (303) 331-6492 
http://www.dmns.org/science/museum-scientists/frank-krell
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From: Paul Kirk [mailto:p.kirk at cabi.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:35 AM
To: Frank T. Krell; r.page at bio.gla.ac.uk; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Cc: j.noyes at nhm.ac.uk
Subject: RE: [Taxacom] Open Access taxonomy

A rather 'eurocentric' viewpoint ... what about the Libraries, if they exist, where most of the undiscovered biodiversity lives (Africa, South America, SE Asia) where a train ticket and an interlibrary loan system just do not apply...

Yes the publication model works OK :-) ... but this is the 21st century not the 19th century.

Paul
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Sent: 25 May 2011 17:56
To: r.page at bio.gla.ac.uk; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Cc: j.noyes at nhm.ac.uk
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Open Access taxonomy

Well, isn't that the reason why we have a library system? Not each new reader has to pay to read. Yes, you need a library pass, and access to a library which has access to the literature you need. However, even when I was a school kid, I managed to get almost all the literature I needed (scientific papers, I mean), with very little investment (train tickets to the next library, interlibrary loan fees).

Yes, it is much more efficient to stay glued in front of a computer screen and have everything readily on hand.

And from the publisher's standpoint: The subscription model still works. For example, if I want to eat a pizza, I pay for it and get it. Oh well, this is just the 99.999% of the world outside scientific publishing...

Frank

Dr Frank T. Krell
Curator of Entomology
Commissioner, International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature
Chair, ICZN ZooBank Committee
Department of Zoology
Denver Museum of Nature & Science
2001 Colorado Boulevard
Denver, CO 80205-5798 USA
Frank.Krell at dmns.org
Phone: (+1) (303) 370-8244
Fax: (+1) (303) 331-6492
http://www.dmns.org/science/museum-scientists/frank-krell
lab page: http://www.dmns.org/krell-lab

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From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Roderic Page
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:39 AM
To: Taxacom
Cc: John Noyes
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Open Access taxonomy

Dear John,

Sure, there's no such thing as a free lunch. But there's an asymmetry between a one-time cost to publish, versus requiring each  new reader having to pay to read. And that's even without considering the potential for reuse that comes with (most) Open Access articles.

Regards

Rod

On 25 May 2011, at 17:17, John Noyes wrote:

> Well, I suppose it lies behind an "input" paywall (pay to publish) or
> output paywall (pay to access) or both. You take your pick. Very few
> "open access" publications are open and free on either or both sides of
> the publishing spectrum. That includes Zookeys, Zootaxa, and Plos One.
> Someone has to pay somewhere.
>
> John
>
> John Noyes
> Scientific Associate
> Department of Entomology
> Natural History Museum
> Cromwell Road
> South Kensington
> London SW7 5BD
> UK
> jsn at nhm.ac.uk
> Tel.: +44 (0) 207 942 5594
> Fax.: +44 (0) 207 942 5229
>
> Universal Chalcidoidea Database (everything you wanted to know about
> chalcidoids and more):
> www.nhm.ac.uk/chalcidoids
> -----Original Message-----
> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Roderic Page
> Sent: 25 May 2011 16:27
> To: Taxacom
> Subject: [Taxacom] Open Access taxonomy
>
> Dear All,
>
> At the risk of channelling Donat Agosti, I find it somewhat depressing
> that only two of the International Institute for Species Exploration's
> Top 10 new species for 2010 (http://species.asu.edu/Top10 ) were
> published as Open Access articles (see
> http://iphylo.blogspot.com/2011/05/top-ten-new-species-described-in-2010
> .html or http://tinyurl.com/3j69cw5 ).
>
> Choice of where to publish is obviously influenced by several, sometimes
> conflicting criteria, but it's a pity that so much of taxonomy's output
> lies behind paywalls.
>
> Regards
>
> Rod
>
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> Roderic Page
> Professor of Taxonomy
> Institute of Biodiversity, Animal Health and Comparative Medicine
> College of Medical, Veterinary and Life Sciences
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> University of Glasgow
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Roderic Page
Professor of Taxonomy
Institute of Biodiversity, Animal Health and Comparative Medicine
College of Medical, Veterinary and Life Sciences
Graham Kerr Building
University of Glasgow
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