[Taxacom] Hedges /Kumar (eds) The Timetree of Life

[John Grehan]

Give what a break? Call a spade a spade. 

As for 'proving' something 'wrong' you will have seen its not that
straightforward. Molecular theorists (at least when it comes to
human-great ape phylogeny) refuse falsification from morphology so it's
an impasse.

Good to know that they (molecular theorists) are finally recognizing
that their molecular divergence estimates are minimal. Just goes to show
that progress can come - eventually.

John Grehan

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Jason Mate
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 2:01 PM
To: Taxacom
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Hedges /Kumar (eds) The Timetree of Life


Oh dear, give it a break. Read the articles that you may find
interesting, and if there as aspects you disagree with and have facts
that prove it wrong, bring them up.
As for the morphological entities you refer (fossils I guess) they are
used as minimum not maximum ages of origin.

Best

Jason

> Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 09:25:20 -0400
> From: jgrehan at sciencebuff.org
> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Hedges /Kumar (eds) The Timetree of Life
> 
> Nice propaganda. It may have been more honest if they called it a DNA
> sequence time tree (although the 'times' are meaningless if they are
> based on morphological entities that are misrepresented as actual or
> maximal origins.
> 
> John Grehan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of
> Tony.Rees at csiro.au
> Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 1:34 AM
> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: [Taxacom] Hedges /Kumar (eds) The Timetree of Life
> 
> Dear Taxacomers,
> 
> Those with an interest in phylogeny, molecular clocks, and
family-level
> systematics who are not already aware of this may find it of interest
> (only a couple of years late for this notification...):
> 
> The TimeTree of Life
> S. Blair Hedges and Sudhir Kumar (Editors)
> with Foreword by James D. Watson
> Oxford University Press, New York.
> xxi + 551 pages
> (c)2009 S. Blair Hedges & Sudhir Kumar
> 
> One aspect which is highly commendable is that all of the text is also
> available online, free for personal, research, or educational use:
> 
> http://www.timetree.org/book.php
> 
> Another is a poster of phylogeny to the level of family for many
groups,
> probably only readable when enlarged to wall size:
> 
> http://www.timetree.org/poster/timetree24x32.pdf
> 
> (smaller versions also available, refer page cited above).
> 
> All in all a very impressive treatment for many extant groups, and
> although no group gets more than a few pages the intention is to treat
> many to family level.
> 
> Hoping this may be of interest to some on the list (it does not appear
> to have been mentioned previously).
> 
> Regards - Tony
> 
> Tony Rees
> Manager, Divisional Data Centre,
> CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research,
> GPO Box 1538,
> Hobart, Tasmania 7001, Australia
> Ph: 0362 325318 (Int: +61 362 325318)
> Fax: 0362 325000 (Int: +61 362 325000)
> e-mail: Tony.Rees at csiro.au
> Manager, OBIS Australia regional node, http://www.obis.org.au/
> Biodiversity informatics research activities:
> http://www.cmar.csiro.au/datacentre/biodiversity.htm
> Personal info:
> http://www.fishbase.org/collaborators/collaboratorsummary.cfm?id=1566
>  
> 
> 
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