[Taxacom] An objective observation for Taxacom members

Sun May 1 20:03:41 CDT 2011

now, that is *exactly* the kind of intolerance that created the Hawkeswood 
monster in the first place ...

I think nutty emails from Hawkeswood are very relevant to Taxacom related issues 
of how best to change the ICZN to deal with rogue taxonomists, etc., and I have 
had several off-list responses thanking me for sharing it ...

Stephen

________________________________
From: Christopher Carlton <ccarlt at lsu.edu>
To: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>; Leslie M. Adams 
<leslie.adams at comcast.net>; Hans Hallman <hanshallman at hotmail.com>; 
taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Sent: Mon, 2 May, 2011 12:49:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Taxacom] An objective observation for Taxacom members

Unfortunately, Taxacom has degraded to a personal soapbox for a handful of 
subscribers who would rather argue and pontificate about systematic problems 
that they do not contribute to solving in meaningful ways and perhaps do not 
fully understand. Those of us who live in hope of an informative kernal of 
information every few days are greeted each morning by these long strings of 
silly 'tit for tat' exchanges...a daily disappointment and chore to delete, 
since they get stored in the deleted box and must ultimately be purged with yet 
more rounds of deleting. Personally, I'm sick of it!

And, no, nutty emails from Hawkswood to not need to be posted here. The best way 
to promote a megalomaniac is to transmit their personal barbs and grievances 
globally.

Could the moderator please step in and limit the pointless exchanges and lets 
try to get Taxacom back to the useful format for exchanging relevant systematic 
information like it used to be in the good old days?

Chris Carlton, Ph. D.
Director, Louisiana State Arthropod Museum
Dept. of Entomology and Adjunct, Dept. of Biological Sciences
LSU, Baton Rouge, LA 70803-1710

-----Original Message-----
From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu on behalf of Stephen Thorpe
Sent: Sun 5/1/2011 7:19 PM
To: Leslie M. Adams; Hans Hallman; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] An objective observation for Taxacom members

at Taxacom, we are not afraid to grapple with the real nitty gritty ...
sensitive readers may be offended ...

________________________________
From: Leslie M. Adams <leslie.adams at comcast.net>
To: Hans Hallman <hanshallman at hotmail.com>; stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz;
taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Sent: Mon, 2 May, 2011 12:13:20 PM
Subject: RE: [Taxacom] An objective observation for Taxacom members

Hello,

I am a new to Taxacom and I must admit I am a bit shocked at the level of
dialog I have been observing. Is there no moderator here to screen out
unprofessional or even offensive submissions? I am a member of several other
professional listservs in the field of biology/ecology and I haven't seen
the frequency of inappropriate banter I have witnessed here.

Just wondering.

Leslie Adams

Leslie M. Adams, Ph.D.
Plant Systematics and Community Ecology
University System of New Hampshire
http://home.co-mcast.net/~leslie.adams/
Home Office: 603 / 659-6177

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we
created them." -  Albert Einstein

-----Original Message-----
From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Hans Hallman
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 7:46 PM
To: stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] more "wise words" from the "great" Dr Trevor J
Hawkeswood!!

Is this even worth passing on to the listserve?

Hans Hallman

> Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 14:29:17 -0700
> From: stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: [Taxacom] more "wise words" from the "great" Dr Trevor J
Hawkeswood!!
>
> any psychologists on Taxacom?
>
> ----- Forwarded Message ----
> From: Dr TJHawkeswood <drtjhawkeswood at calodema.com>
> To: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
> Cc: Dr TJHawkeswood <drtjhawkeswood at calodema.com>
> Sent: Mon, 2 May, 2011 8:49:43 AM
> Subject: Re: Enquiry from Calodema - The Website of Dr Trevor J Hawkeswood
>
> Hi there you Hawkeswood hater!
>
> More files are up on the great calodema website and soon theres going to
be a
> flood from me.
>
> www.calodema.com rules and theres a lot wrong with biology and taxonomy in
the
> world
>
> and as i can see many biologists are assholes
>
> and I shall enjoy immensely revising their works and "cooking their fat
bodies
> over the flames" in other words, Ill stew them in their own juices.
>
> Dr TJHawkeswood
> www.calodema.com
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