[Taxacom] RES: south-west Australia
Robinwbruce at aol.com
Robinwbruce at aol.com
Wed Jun 22 15:39:23 CDT 2011
Hi John,
For what it is worth, I agree.
For me the issue does not revolve around some trite or banal null
hypothesis, but on the degrees of freedom of the system under exploration.
Robin
In a message dated 6/22/2011 4:02:35 P.M. GMT Daylight Time,
jgrehan at sciencebuff.org writes:
My point is that "null hypotheses" are no more or less useful or
insightful than the methodology and assumptions that are built into the
analysis in the first place. One can have all the null hypotheses in the
world and yet have none that are realistic if one is blind to relevant
information (such as biogeographic patterns in biogeography).
John Grehan
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On 6/22/2011 5:09 AM, John Grehan wrote:
> This discussion exemplifies what panbiogeography is all about. In my
opinion, panbiogeography is not focused on hashing over theories and
definitions about vicariance and dispersal based on some theoretical
proposition or 'null hypothesis (as in Darwinian center of
origin/dispersalist biogeography), but begins with a serious look at the
facts of biogeography as represented by looking at how phylogenetic
relationships and boundaries are geographically located and spatially
related to each other.
Every science uses null hypotheses. All biogeographers use the null
hypothesis "everything lives everywhere". If panbiogeographers haven't
refined the null hypotheses beyond that, more's the shame, but I suspect
they have. Otherwise, they are comparing their data with nothing.
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Curtis Clark
Cal Poly Pomona
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