[Taxacom] Eubacteria and Archaebacteria

[Peter Stevens]

You might be interested in Jan Sapp's "The new foundation of  
evolution" which deal's with Woese et al.'s work, and the reactions  
of the likes of Ernst M.

P.
On Jun 3, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Robin Leech wrote:

> There are no rules for names at the ordinal level and above,
> so, it you want to use whatever name, use it, and that will
> establish usage.
> Robin
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kenneth Kinman" <kennethkinman at webtv.net>
> To: "Dick Jensen" <rjensen at saintmarys.edu>
> Cc: <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 12:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Eubacteria and Archaebacteria
>
>
> Hi Dick,
>       Well, remember that they were originally named Urkingdom
> Archaebacteria, and the name itself reflects the belief that they were
> "archaic".  Then after Gogarten and others showed that this was not  
> the
> case, Woese et al. renamed it Domain Archaea.  Ernst Mayr criticized
> Woese for doing this (retaining the uninformative "Archae" and
> discarding the informative ending "-bacteria").
>        It's really a shame that the name Metabacteria (an informative
> name proposed over 20 years ago) wasn't adopted, and the uninformative
> name "Archaea" was adopted instead.  The opportunity to set things
> straight was not taken, and the confusion and misinformation thus
> continue to this day.  I still advocate refering to them as  
> Metabacteria
> (a.k.a. Archaebacteria).   Anyway, if you want to read more about it,
> see Ernst Mayr's article in PNAS (Two Empires or Three):
>
> http://www.pnas.org/content/95/17/9720.full
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Dick Jensen wrote:
>      I must have missed something along the way. Virtually every text
> I am familiar with depicts the phylogeny of life as
> (Eubacteria(Archaea,Eukarya)). How could anyone interpret this as an
> indicator that Archaea are the most primitive?
> Dick J
>
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