[Taxacom] latin out of botany

[Donat Agosti]

Since this followed Article 36, Prop E (188 - Demoulin in Taxon 59: 1611)
Insert in Art. 36.3 the text in bold [here CL] so that it reads:
"In order to be validly published, a name of a new taxon of fossil plants
published on or after 1 January 1996, OR OF FUNGI PUBLISHED ON OR AFTER 1
JANUARY 2013, must be accompanied by a Latin or English description or
diagnosis..." 

It seems to me clear that the respective decision is OR (either) and not
AND. 

I (as neither of English nor French mother tongue) look at the disappearance
of Latin not as part of the Anglo-Saxon hegemony but rather as part of a
reality that is in fact very productive: to have a lingua franca that allows
to communicate well beyond my Swiss German mother tongue, a language that
not even has a printed version. 

Donat


-----Original Message-----
From: Jacques Melot [mailto:jacques.melot at isholf.is] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:59 PM
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Cc: Donat Agosti; 'valery malecot'
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] latin out of botany

  Le 20/07/11, à 12:38 +0200, nous recevions de Donat Agosti :

>Dear Valery
>
>I understand it is a Latin OR English, and not English AND Latin,


[J. M.]   Mauvais raisonnement ! « Latin or 
English » ne signifie pas « either Latin or 
English ». Par conséquent, cela peut être : 
« Latin and English ».

    Mais ne nous y trompons pas : la mort du latin 
est amorcée, au nom de l'hégémonie anglo-saxonne 
sous le prétexte de simplication. Cet article a 
avant tout une portée politico-culturelle et 
n'est donc pas conforme à l'esprit du Code de 
nomenclature.

    Jacques Melot


>and what
>is a few months - that's the time to write just the first descriptions
>without Latin...
>
>Donat
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of valery malecot
>Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 10:24 AM
>To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
>Subject: Re: [Taxacom] latin out of botany
>
>Sorry Donat,
>
>don't take your dreams for reality, that will be now
>"In order to be validly published, a name of a new taxon [...] must be 
>accompanied by a Latin or English description or diagnosis"
>thus latin is still there, it is not replaced, you'll just have the 
>opportunity to use your mother's tongue also.
>
>Secondly, even if that will be endorsed next week at IBC, you will be 
>allow to publish a new botanical taxa with an english-only description 
>or diagnosis only on the 1st of january 2012, not next month. Wait a 
>bit more...
>
>Sincerely
>
>Valery
>
>
>Donat Agosti <agosti at amnh.org> a écrit :
>
>>  The nomenclaturial section at the International Botanical Congress in
>>  Melbourne voted to allow English to replace Latin as a requirement for
the
>>  diagnosis or description to publish validly a new taxonon. This decision
>>  is contingent by the ibc next week.
>>  Donat Agosti
>>
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