[Taxacom] Genera Triton Linnaeus and Bulis Gistl

[Stephen Thorpe]

as I said, there is a real mish mash of confusion with Triton, and it is going 
to take some time to sort it all out (as a preliminary observation, it appears 
that every source I have looked at has gone wrong somewhere) ...




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From: "gerarus at westnet.com.au" <gerarus at westnet.com.au>
To: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
Cc: Tony Rees <Tony.Rees at csiro.au>; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Sent: Mon, 11 July, 2011 8:20:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Genera Triton Linnaeus and Bulis Gistl

It appears that while Linnaeus (1758) did indeed place _Triton_ among the 
molluscs, the actual animal in question was a barnacle of some kind (see for 
instance Darwin's comment on p. 164 of his barnacle monograph at 
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=p80QAAAAIAAJ). I haven't been able to find 
yet why the name _Triton_ Linnaeus 1758 was subsequently dropped from usage, but 
I'm suspecting that the exact barnacle species concerned was probably 
unidentifiable. Opinion 668 of the ICZN (OPINION 668, 1963, _Tritonia_ Cuvier, 
[1797] (Gastropoda): designation of a type-species under the plenary powers. 
Bulletin of Zoological Nomenclature, 20(4): 272-273) apparently officially 
rejected the _Triton_ of Montfort 1810 as an available name.

    Cheers,

      Christopher Taylor

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From: "Stephen Thorpe" <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
To: "Tony Rees" <Tony.Rees at csiro.au>, taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Sent: Monday, 11 July, 2011 3:40:39 PM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / Hong 
Kong / Urumqi
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Genera Triton Linnaeus and Bulis Gistl

yes, there are 3 Triton homonyms  (see 
http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Triton), that is clear, but the 
homonymy starts to go crazy (plus other confusions) when you try to track the 
three names to present day ...




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From: "Tony.Rees at csiro.au" <Tony.Rees at csiro.au>
To: stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Sent: Mon, 11 July, 2011 7:35:29 PM
Subject: RE: [Taxacom] Genera Triton Linnaeus and Bulis Gistl


Well, I’ve got a little further – the WoRMS entry appears to have confused 
Triton Linnaeus with Triton Laurenti, 1768, which is in Amphibia but is not a 
valid name (it was replaced by Oiacurus Leuckart 1821, currently a syn. of 
Triturus Rafinesque, 1815 it seems).
 
Does not resolve the original question, however…
 
- Tony
 
From:Stephen Thorpe [mailto:stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz] 
Sent: Monday, 11 July 2011 5:31 PM
To: Rees, Tony (CMAR, Hobart); taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Genera Triton Linnaeus and Bulis Gistl
 
it's lookin' like a real mish mash of homonymy ... I'll get back to you when I 
have untangled it (or you can follow my progress on Wikispecies) ...
 
Stephen
 

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From:"Tony.Rees at csiro.au" <Tony.Rees at csiro.au>
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Sent: Mon, 11 July, 2011 6:43:17 PM
Subject: [Taxacom] Genera Triton Linnaeus and Bulis Gistl

Dear all,

I am trying to understand why the genera Triton Linnaeus and Bulis Gistl 
("emend. pro Triton L. 1758") are both listed as "Crustacea" in Nomenclator 
Zoologicus here: http://www.ubio.org/NZ/PDF/Vol4/pg0570.pdf 


and here: http://www.ubio.org/NZ/PDF/Vol1/pg0500.pdf

when it appears they should be molluscs, I think, see Syst. Nat. p. 658: 
http://biodiversitylibrary.org/page/25034469 - though I am not sure what type of 

mollusc, or whether indeed I am correct here.

Interestingly the World Register of Marine Species entry for a junior homonym, 
Triton Montfort, 1810 says "Invalid: junior homonym of Triton Linnaeus, 1758 
[Amphibia]"... presumably just an error, though not obvious why.

Is anyone able to offer insight into what may be going on here?

Regards - Tony

Tony Rees
Manager, Divisional Data Centre,
CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research,
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Hobart, Tasmania 7001, Australia
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