[Taxacom] Call for proxy votes for the forthcomingInternational Botanical Congress

[Stephen Thorpe]

so, you effectively want to use the same name for a different taxonomic genus 
(so as to avoid 1998 changes in combination), and you think that doing so won't 
cause confusion???




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From: "Thiele, Kevin" <Kevin.Thiele at dec.wa.gov.au>
To: John Grehan <jgrehan at sciencebuff.org>; "taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu" 
<taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Sent: Thu, 7 July, 2011 11:32:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Call for proxy votes for the forthcomingInternational 
Botanical Congress

John,

please consider this scenario. A hypothetical genus of 2000 species needs to be 
split into two (for whatever reason). One segregate comprises 2 species and 
occurs only in Australia. The second segregate comprises 1998 species, occurs 
worldwide and contains species that very well-known, are important in 
horticulture, industry etc, and are ecologically important and hence widely used 
in the literature. The type is one of the two Australian species.

Are you seriously suggesting that the Code should not have provision for dealing 
with scenarios such as this?

[Note to stave off criticism: I'm not suggesting that this is the Acacia 
scenario - my genus here is purely hypothetical to deal with John's point]

Cheers - Kevin

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of John Grehan
Sent: Thursday, 7 July 2011 6:45 AM
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Call for proxy votes for the forthcomingInternational 
Botanical Congress

In other words if not enough Africans use the services of those who have
the power to make the change then too bad.

Nothing more stable than keeping a type name with a type.

John Grehan 

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Kirk [mailto:p.kirk at cabi.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 4:54 PM
To: John Grehan; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: RE: [Taxacom] Call for proxy votes for the
forthcomingInternational Botanical Congress

This is NOT for the convenience of taxonomists, african or otherwise ...
it's for the convenience of the users of the services taxonomist provide
- paramount of which is a stable method of naming taxonomic groups.

Paul
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[taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] on behalf of John Grehan
[jgrehan at sciencebuff.org]
Sent: 06 July 2011 18:20
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Call for proxy votes for the forthcoming
International Botanical Congress

Fred R. Barrie, Secretary

-----  Botanical nomenclature has always been governed in a democratic
fashion.
General Committee for Botanical Nomenclature

Even democracy can be abused. If I am correct that the current Type is
for an African taxon, then one might ask how many botanical
nomenclaturists are in Africa vs in Australia-South America. Perhaps I
am wrong, but it might seem as if non-Africans are making a grab for
what is currently an African type to suit their (non-African)
convenience, never might the convenience of African taxonomists.

John Grehan

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