[Taxacom] Why Taxonomy does NOT matter
Stephen Thorpe
stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Fri Apr 22 22:12:01 CDT 2011
Bob,
I'm not sure what to say in reply to that, except to clarify what I was saying.
The bit you quote me as saying was in reply to someone who was claiming that
projects were evaluated on other grounds. However, there is a bit of a point
here that you might, rather surprisingly, be missing: let us distinguish
taxonomy from systematics. They are different things, but they are closely
connected. To simplify, taxonomy is descriptive. Systematics is more
"scientific". Systematics needs taxonomy to provide it with things to work on.
Pure descriptive taxonomy is worth doing if systematics, conservation, etc.,
are worth doing. Progress in taxonomy is measured inversely to the proportion of
undescribed taxa in collections (or in the field). The basic problem, as I see
it, is that taxonomy is being increasingly devalued in favour of the next step -
systematics. But taxonomists just need to keep on doing what they have been
doing for centuries, and describe and name new taxa, hopefully rendering them
recognisable. Yes, there is an interplay here with systematics, so as to make
sure that new taxa are described in the appropriate higher taxon (genus, tribe,
family, ...), but the problem is that nobody new coming on the scene wants to
progress the taxonomy much, because there is increasingly less funding and
promotion opportunities for doing such a "dull and unscientific" (to some) job.
It is the taxonomy component falling out of the equation that is the problem,
not the innovation of new tools for systematics per se. The new tools are great
for systematics, for the reasons you state below, but who is going to do the
taxonomy after you and your generation have passed on?? I really don't see the
point in knowing that family F is paraphyletic w.r.t. family G, if nobody is
ever going to describe and name all the species in F and G! It would be somewhat
like fitting all the pieces together of a blank jigsaw!
Stephen
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From: Bob Mesibov <mesibov at southcom.com.au>
To: Stephen Thorpe <stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz>
Cc: TAXACOM <taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu>
Sent: Sat, 23 April, 2011 2:47:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Why Taxonomy does NOT matter
Stephen, you made an interesting point when you said
"So, I put it to you all that, in practice, the value of a project is largely
determined by the methodology used ... "
I wonder if this has changed much over the years in science. When microscopes
made the big time in the 1800s, journals of microscopy popped up and all good
journals had to find ways to reproduce the very complex illustrations the
micro-anatomists were turning out. Microscopists trained in the black arts of
sectioning and staining grabbed important positions at universities, ones that
'traditional' anatomists working with scalpels had previously filled. With a
little effort I'm sure you can find microanatomy-based publications from (say)
1870-1890 which controversially overturned macroanatomy-based views on
evolutionary relationships. Sound familiar?
My point is that not only does new methodology <cliche>address previously
unanswerable biological questions and generate new ones</cliche>, i.e. has great
scientific value, but it also generates academic prestige, better funding, etc.,
because of that scientific value. In any case, what we see of the <cliche>DNA
revolution</cliche> in taxonomy and systematics is only small beer compared to
the corresponding research volume and expenditure in other areas (medicine,
forensics, public health, etc).
Systematists look at sequences and genome arrangements as sources of new
characters, i.e. they think traditionally but use novel data. If I wanted to put
money on research that will really revolutionise taxonomy and systematics, that
would have to be evo-devo, which in a methodological sense is still in its
infancy.
--
Dr Robert Mesibov
Honorary Research Associate
Queen Victoria Museum and Art Gallery, and
School of Zoology, University of Tasmania
Home contact: PO Box 101, Penguin, Tasmania, Australia 7316
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