[Taxacom] Why Taxonomy does NOT matter

[John Grehan]

An integrative spirit if fine if there is a basis for doing so. I can
see barcoding being ok as a short cut for identification for entities
that have already been sorted out, but as a replacement it gets more
problematic. I get the impression that barcoding is seen as a
replacement, and that's where I see a problem. The comparable issue is
over whether DNA sequence analysis should replace morphogenetic analysis
as is widely believed. 

John Grehan

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I agree totally at one level, but one has to agree that some of the
barcoders have a very naive view of the taxonomic enterprise. Getting on
the same team is good!  I hope we can move towards good science too,
though...

Jim

P. S.  I have gotten involved with at least some of the core barcoders,
and find that they absolutely LOVE it when we have more kinds of data to
wrap into the analysis and interpretation. I have to say SOME
traditionally based taxonomists do not have the same openness to new
types
of evidence. They seem more interested in preserving their own "expert"
status.  As a traditionally based taxonomist and supposed "expert"
myself,
I find this unfortunate. We can all learn from new, and real, data, but
is
has to be in an integrative spirit. No? What is the alternative?


> Hi All,
>
> I think the real reason that astronomers can get huge grants and
> taxonomists can't is that taxonomists/systematists are such a
fractious
> bunch they just can't help but shoot themselves in the foot by
protesting
> vociferously against any emerging large initiatives. A case in point
is
> barcoding. The concept has caught the public's imagination and could
bring
> megabucks to taxonomy, but instead of seeing the possibilities,
getting
> involved and working together to integrate and improve this fledgling
> system many taxonomists would rather fire shots from the sidelines.
Have
> you ever seen a documentary on TV where say radioastronomers slam
> gamma-ray astronomers as having no understanding of their
subdiscipline?
> Of course not! They would rather work together to build the
multi-billion
> dollar SKA that they can all use.
>
> Now that I'm sticking my neck out I may as well add that funding
models
> which favour "innovation" over all else are partly to blame. This is
why
> we have so many different initiatives digitising taxonomy (checklists,
> species pages & images, the heritage literature) with limited
> interactivity - each successive proposal must demonstrate that it is
doing
> something "innovative", i.e. different from existing projects.
>
> OK, my flame guards are up so fire away!
>
> Andrew
>
> Andrew Mitchell
> Integrative Systematist
> Entomology
>
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