[Taxacom] Sorry, but you are out-of-line

Stephen Thorpe stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Sat Nov 13 19:11:20 CST 2010


>The aspect that  could make it really expensive is digitalization of old stuff 
>because  that is just a huge number of man hours to do the manual work of making 
>the page scans

That's another issue which annoys me - too many independent digitising projects 
in the world today all scanning the same stuff as each other, because there is 
no financial incentive to them (as opposed to the wider community) to cooperate 
...

... on the other hand, the problem with biodiversity informatics projects (lime 
CoL, EoL, GBIF, WoRMS, etc.) is that although they share their data, they all 
want to create their own interfaces ...



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From: Kim van der Linde <kim at kimvdlinde.com>
To: TAXACOM at MAILMAN.NHM.KU.EDU
Sent: Sun, 14 November, 2010 1:37:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Sorry, but you are out-of-line

Stephen,

Systems get hugely expensive when many bureaucrats have a say in the 
design, because that generally results in monstrosities that need to be 
capable of doing everything because everybody will add his or her own 
pet projects to the main project. I have seen those bloated project 
descriptions, and yes, those are hugely expensive. A straight forward 
repository that focuses on the basics is primarily a matter of digital 
storage space (cheaper every day) and webservers to run the stuff 
together with the admins who keep the stuff running. The aspect that 
could make it really expensive is digitalization of old stuff because 
that is just a huge number of man hours to do the manual work of making 
the page scans.

Kim



On 11/13/2010 7:06 PM, Stephen Thorpe wrote:
>  >And I think if this is done wisely, it doesn't need to be hugely
> expensive
> Haha ... I wonder how many politicians and other beauracrats have
> uttered that line before??!!
> To quote the lyrics of some old song "if is for children, building
> daydreams..."
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Kim van der Linde <kim at kimvdlinde.com>
> *To:* Doug Yanega <dyanega at ucr.edu>
> *Cc:* iczn-list at afriherp.org; TAXACOM at MAILMAN.NHM.KU.EDU
> *Sent:* Sun, 14 November, 2010 12:59:18 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Taxacom] Sorry, but you are out-of-line
>
>
>
> On 11/13/2010 6:40 PM, Doug Yanega wrote:
>  > Is anyone here prepared to state that they are unwilling, under any
>  > circumstances, to support a centralized digital archive JUST LIKE
>  > GenBank (meaning perpetually funded, never obsolete, no loss of data,
>  > etc.)?
>
> Let me go on the record that I really really like this idea of a
> centralized bank with all publications, or at least all new ones. And I
> think it this is done wisely, it doesn't need to be hugely expensive.
>
> Kim
>
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