[Taxacom] Species-level homonyms - between/within codes

[Tony.Rees at csiro.au]

Thanks, Brian - also a recognition enshrined in at least one Code of the existence of inter-Code homonyms (that term again...)

Regards - Tony

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Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Species-level homonyms - between/within codes

Tony,
Not fully correct, the Bacteriological Code banned the creation of new
homonyms of the names of other microorganisms created under other
Codes (eg from protists, fungi, algae etc,). Recently we banned the
creation of new homonyms of names already created under other Codes,
without restrictions.
Brian

Quoting Tony.Rees at csiro.au:

> Dear Paul, all,
>
> This is certainly not a world I have somehow invented - it is called
> the scientific names of organisms, or biodiversity, or biodiversity
> informatics, q.v...
>
> I believe it is simply reasonable to call these "homonyms across
> codes" and in support I would cite e.g. the following statement:
>
> "Each of the major nomenclatural Codes (ICBN, ICNB, ICTV) is
> exclusive; they govern homonymy independently. Thus homonyms (the
> same name for different taxa) are allowed between Codes. For
> example, the genus Ficus is available and valid for both a gastropod
> genus and the plants commonly called figs. It is assumed that points
> of confusion in referring to organisms in different Kingdoms will be
> rare, thus homonymy is not controlled in these cases."
>
> This is to be found on (of all places) the ICZN website,
> http://iczn.org/content/are-homonyms-across-codes-permitted-example-between-plants-and-animals
>
> One can find similar references elsewhere, e.g. "Avoidance of
> inter-Code homonyms" in Hawksworth, 1998, "Twenty-three proposals to
> amend the Code in order to increase nomenclatural harmonisation in
> biology", and so on.
>
> Regards - Tony
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, 10 November 2010 10:01 PM
> To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Species-level homonyms - between/within codes
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> Van: Tony.Rees at csiro.au [mailto:Tony.Rees at csiro.au]
> Verzonden: wo 10-11-2010 9:42
>
> Dear Paul,
>
>> You wrote:
>> ---
>> As to "[homonyms] can equally exist between Codes as well",
>> I do not see how Art 52.7 could be more explicit:
>>    "52.7. Homonymy with names of taxa which are not animals.
>>    The name of an animal taxon identical with the name of a
>>    taxon which has never been treated as animal is not a
>>    homonym for the purposes of zoological nomenclature "
>> ---
>
>> I believe this is perfectly consistent with my previously
>> expressed view - it merely indicates that cross-code homonyms
>> do not require any corrective action under the ICZN Code,
>> which we know already. My interest crosses multiple codes,
>> which is why the cross-code homonymy issue becomes relevant,
>> even if it is not so "for the purposes of zoological
>> nomenclature"...
>
>> Regards - Tony
>
> ***
> Dear Tony,
>
> Obviously you are entitled to be interested in text-strings
> "[across] multiple codes", and you have great freedom in what you
> call whatever phenomenon you observe, even such terms like the
> "synchronous dancing of pink-polka-dotted spelling elephants" or
> whatever (in this case "homography" sounds like a good idea).
>
> However, it then rests with you to make it clear in what frame
> of reference you are expressing yourself, and to be clear if
> these are Tony-Rees-defined terms, or if these have a wider
> application, and if so what application. Certainly it is very
> confusing to use terms that look as if they are nomenclatural
> terms but actually are entirely different from what they would
> mean in a nomenclatural context (or are different in different
> ways in different nomenclatural contexts). The present effort
> has a very database-ese look to it. If you are going to create
> a world of your own, why not invent entirely new terms to go
> with it?
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
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