[Taxacom] Species-level homonyms - between/within codes

Tue Nov 9 02:00:39 CST 2010

>I am baffled by this
I think the point is that the junior homonym genus name will get replaced (e.g. 
the junior Noctua, by Ninox) and therby remove the species-level homonymy...

>I agree with Neal's comment, as I have just one across such a paper...
Some Turks are very active in this area ... I just LOVE this photo of some of 
these "cowboys": http://www.members.tripod.com/entcesa/Kemalvc.pdf

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From: Dr Brian Taylor <dr.brian.taylor at ntlworld.com>
To: Tony.Rees at csiro.au; neale at bishopmuseum.org; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Sent: Tue, 9 November, 2010 8:46:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Species-level homonyms - between/within codes

I am baffled by this. For almost 50 years as a biologist I have believed it
is the genus name - species name combination that is unique.  The latter on
its own is of no significance, or have I missed something.

I agree with Neal's comment, as I have just one across such a paper
purporting to "correct" subspecies names, for no obvious purpose or merit
and in some cases ignorant of genus revisions, etc.

Brian

On 09/11/2010 02:25, "Tony.Rees at csiro.au" <Tony.Rees at csiro.au> wrote:

> Thanks, Neal - will do so. Interestingly, the example given in the cited ICZN
> article i.e. variegata Jung, 1792 in Noctua (Insecta) and variegata Quoy &
> Gaimard, 1830 in Noctua (Aves) is not in my list - so there is one to add
> already.
> 
> Regards - Tony
>  
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Neal Evenhuis [mailto:neale at bishopmuseum.org]
>> Sent: Tuesday, 9 November 2010 1:12 PM
>> To: Rees, Tony (CMAR, Hobart); taxacom
>> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Species-level homonyms - between/within codes
>> 
>> Interesting list.
>> 
>> Safety note: before someone gets replacement-name-happy with names found
>> to be homonymous within the same Code (i.e., ICZN), please note that ICZN
>> Article 57.8.1 states that homonymy of species-group names found within
>> homonymous genus-group names in which the latter were established for
>> different nominal genera (e.g, one genus in beetles and the other in bats)
>> is to be disregarded.
>> 
>> (I only mention this because there are some out there who are harvesting
>> lists such as this for only one purpose -- to pad their publication list
>> with small notes establishing new replacement names.)
>> 
>> You might want to post this as a caveat on your website, Tony, in case one
>> of them bumps into your web-based list without reading this thread.
>> 
>> -Neal
>> 
>> On 11/8/10 3:49 PM, "Tony.Rees at csiro.au" <Tony.Rees at csiro.au> scribbled
>> the following:
>> 
>>> Dear Taxacomers,
>>> 
>>> One question I am occasionally asked is whether there is a resource which
>>> lists notable species-level homonyms (either valid or invalid) across or
>>> between Codes, for data disambiguation purposes. Since I am not aware of
>>> such a resource, I have attempted to create one, with presently the grand
>>> total of 73 names to date:
>>> 
>>> http://www.marine.csiro.au/mirrorsearch/ir_search.list_homonyms?hlevel=sp
>> e
>>> cies
>>> 
>>> (also accessible via its parent page
>>> http://www.cmar.csiro.au/datacentre/irmng/homonyms.htm)
>>> 
>>> I have deliberately excluded homonyms within the same actual genus
>>> instance since there are over 195,000 of those in the copy of Catalogue
>>> of Life which I have used for much of the base data, and distinguishing
>>> true homonyms from the numerous chresonyms included in that set would be
>>> a mammoth task; in other words this list is restricted to homonymic
>>> epithets in homonymic genera as well.
>>> 
>>> I would be happy to be alerted to names I have missed so that I can
>>> continue to maintain this as a potentially useful resource, or to receive
>>> any other feedback from list members that might lead to improvements.
>>> Since my base list from which this is drawn probably covers no more than
>>> 50% of all published species names I have no doubt that the eventual
>>> number will be somewhat higher than the present total, but maybe not
>>> massively so.
>>> 
>>> Regards - Tony
>>> 
>>> Tony Rees
>>> Manager, Divisional Data Centre,
>>> CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research,
>>> GPO Box 1538,
>>> Hobart, Tasmania 7001, Australia
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>>> Fax: 0362 325000 (Int: +61 362 325000)
>>> e-mail: Tony.Rees at csiro.au
>>> Manager, OBIS Australia regional node, http://www.obis.org.au/
>>> Biodiversity informatics research activities:
>>> http://www.cmar.csiro.au/datacentre/biodiversity.htm
>>> Personal info:
>>> http://www.fishbase.org/collaborators/collaboratorsummary.cfm?id=1566
>>> 
>>> 
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