[Taxacom] OMG! OMG! Run for your lives! End of the World!

[Paul Kirk]

It is, imho, unlikely that the Codes (if they survive in the true
digital world) will try to retroactively invalidate names which were
then following the 'Rules' (Articles). Users of names will use names -
often, and perhaps increasingly, independent of nomeclatural niceties.

Paul

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Subject: Re: [Taxacom] OMG! OMG! Run for your lives! End of the World!

Yes, there is not really much of a story here: the requirements of the
ICBN are met.

However, using print-outs of electronic publications is potentially at
odds with Rec. 30A, and is not guaranteed safe. If this becomes common
practice, it is possible that (sometime in the future) a Rule will be
instituted that such print-outs have to meet certain requirements, such
as that they are evidently intended for the permanent scientific record
(and are not just a pile of sheets stapled together), or in terms of
numbers of copies in their 'print run', etc). In that case it is
possible that these names may (retroactively) lose their status. 

These names do live on the edge, and may fall over.

Paul

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Van: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu namens Karen Wilson
Verzonden: do 6-5-2010 10:16
Aan: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Onderwerp: Re: [Taxacom] OMG! OMG! Run for your lives! End of the World!
 
You've hit the nail on the head, Kristina.  This could be considered a
beat-up by 'Nature'! 

If you turn the story around, Sandy has clearly met the ICBN's
requirements by putting hard copies in 10 libraries, which is more than
the Code lays down - strictly the Code only requires 2 copies,
unfortunately. The last Nomenclature session (Vienna 2005) did agree to
add a recommendation (Rec. 30A) that authors/publishers should deposit
hard copies of any nomenclatural publication in at least 10 libraries.
It's only a recommendation in this version of the Code, but it is likely
to become the accepted minimum to deposit, whether a publication is hard
copy only or electronic as well. 
The date of publication is the date on which the publisher (or agent)
sends ('makes available', in the terminology of the ICBN) the copies to
those ten libraries. 
The current Code is online at http://ibot.sav.sk/icbn/main.htm for those
who want to read more...

In practice, Sandy has done the same as one of my colleagues did with a
short publication on new taxa in Grevillea in 1986; in that case it was
a 'self-published' paper that was sent to a lot of libraries by the
author, plus given to us individually here in the National Herbarium of
NSW. 

The advantage in Sandy's case, of course, is that the paper is also
available electronically to a much wider audience. Whether that will be
ephemeral availability or not we have yet to see, but long-term
electronic archiving is improving all the time, if still not as reliable
as books on a shelf generally are (and yes, I have heard it said that
the only secure publication is on stone tablets!).

It seems likely that many smaller journals (and larger ones?) will move
soon to a very limited print run, maybe with 'print-on-demand' as well,
and will rely on the Web version of their journals to reach the wider
audience. The deposit of at least some hard copies in libraries seems a
sensible measure, whether required by the Code or not, in terms of
persistence into the future. As I keep telling our IT people, long term
storage/archiving equates to centuries for us biologists, not 3-5 years.


 At the least, Sandy and 'Nature' have ensured that discussion will be
animated in our Electronic Publication Committee (of which Sandy is a
member) as well as in the broader botanical community in what's left of
the period before the IBC in Melbourne in July 2011. 

Karen Wilson
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[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Kristina LEMSON
Sent: Thursday, 6 May 2010 3:42 PM
To: Jim Croft; TaxaCom
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] OMG! OMG! Run for your lives! End of the World!

Actually, aren't they are complying with the code, rather than 'getting
around' I, as the article puts it?

Kris


On 6/05/10 6:12 AM, "Jim Croft" <jim.croft at gmail.com> wrote:

http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100505/full/news.2010.221.html?s=news_rs
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