[Taxacom] OMG! OMG! Run for your lives! End of the World!

Thu May 6 02:57:09 CDT 2010

Brian,

Peer review is a myth ... post publication peer review is the test of good science (including taxonomy) ... the good rises, the bad falls - at digital speed.

Paul 

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Sent: 06 May 2010 08:55
To: Paul Kirk
Cc: Donat Agosti; TaxaCom
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] OMG! OMG! Run for your lives! End of the World!

Paul,
As you know the Bacteriological Code already allows electronic publications, provided they conform to the tradition followed in print. This would include the principle of peer review (also raised in the Nature news article) and creating a permanent record that it not altered. In essence archiving of electronic publications is something that serious publishers have already paid attention to - it is part of their business plan. Of course the IJSEM, the central record of [registered] prokaryote names is published in both print and electronic form.
Brian

Quoting Paul Kirk <p.kirk at cabi.org>:

> there is nothing in the botanical Code which prevent anyone from 
> downloading a published on-line 'pre-print' and printing multiple 
> (more than one) identical copies at 'one time' (i.e. not print on
> demand) and delivering them to more than one library ... I know, I did 
> it back in 2008 
> (http://www.indexfungorum.org/Names/NamesRecord.asp?RecordID=511980). 
> The more people who work the Code in this way the more pressure there 
> will be to change the Codes to reflect the reality of the 21st 
> century. And there will always be paper copies (even though we add 
> environmental messages to our emails) and electronic copies can be 
> changed - but why would anyone want to do that? and if someone did the 
> Codes could deal with it ... couldn't they?
>
> Paul
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> [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Donat Agosti
> Sent: 06 May 2010 08:12
> To: 'TaxaCom'
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] OMG! OMG! Run for your lives! End of the World!
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> It is also not the first time Linnaeus meets the internet. This 
> happened earlier in PLoS One
> http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.00017
> 87  in 2008. There was also a lengthy heated debate in ICZN list about 
> whether this was correct or not, even though advice from the ICZN 
> commission has been thought beforehand. It might also have been 
> important in moving the Commission towards dealing electronic 
> publications.
>
> Donat
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen 
> Thorpe
> Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2010 11:32 AM
> To: Kristina LEMSON; Jim Croft; TaxaCom
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] OMG! OMG! Run for your lives! End of the World!
>
> exactly!
>
>
>
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> ________________________________
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> Sent: Thu, 6 May, 2010 5:42:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Taxacom] OMG! OMG! Run for your lives! End of the World!
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> Actually, aren't they are complying with the code, rather than 
> 'getting around' I, as the article puts it?
>
> Kris
>
>
> On 6/05/10 6:12 AM, "Jim Croft" <jim.croft at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100505/full/news.2010.221.html?s=news_
> rss
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