[Taxacom] Genus Hamadryas Hübner, 1806 (or 1808)

[Tony.Rees at csiro.au]

Further to my message below, what I currently hope is the full round-up of all but a few instances of Hamadryas can now be found via the following URL

http://www.marine.csiro.au/mirrorsearch/ir_search.go?hlevel=genus&searchtxt=Hamadryas

Any corrections / further clarifications welcome.

Now on to the next target genus in my list of potentially confusing names (only 29,000 to go...)

Regards - Tony

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [ExternalEmail] Re: [Taxacom] Genus Hamadryas Hübner, 1806 (or 1808)

Hi Paul, all,

The question is not whether the titles

(A) Sammlung exotischer Schmettlinge [...]

(B) Erste Zutraege zur Sammlung exotischer
Schmetterlinge

, both by Hübner, both undated I believe but elsewhere ascribed to the years 1806 and 1808, are the same, but whether the abbreviation " Samml. Exot. Schmett. could conceivably refer to either of them, i.e. as cited in Nomenclator Zoologicus and elsewhere (specifically LepIndex). You are correct that the appropriate application of Biodiversity Informatics should ultimately be able to distinguish between the two, but that aspect of the Global Names Infrastructure (apparently to be termed CiteBank, see previous correspondence from Rich Pyle I think) has yet to be developed.

Regarding your second point, yes I was incorrect in using the term unavailable to refer to either rejected names or junior homonyms, I meant to say invalid, my apologies. Also I was incorrect in saying that the 1808 instance of Hamadryas Hübner was a homonym, actually it is the 6 other (!) instances of Hamadryas as given in the ICZN Official Index which are cited as junior homonyms (obviously a bad brain day when I wrote that email).

Regards - Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu [mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Paul van Rijckevorsel
Sent: Sunday, 14 March 2010 7:11 PM
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Genus Hamadryas Hübner, 1806 (or 1808)

From: <Tony.Rees at csiro.au>
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 12:37 AM

> [...] It was not previously apparent to me that Hübner's "Samml. exot.
> Schmett." could refer to more than one work,

***
I am afraid I find this mystifying.  I have seen no indication that Hübner's
"Samml. exot. Schmett." can refer to more than one work. I also don't see
how the work referred to as "the pamphlet by J. Hübner, 1808, entitled Erste
Zuträge ..." might be confusable with the earlier: even when ignoring the
accompanying information, these titles are quite different textstrings
(so beloved by the biodiversity informaticians), with lots of different
letters.

It would be somewhat easier to imagine confusion between the
Erste Zuträge ... (1808) and the Zuträge ... (1818) (at
http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/bibliography/12439 )
but even that would be reaching.
* * *

> also that there were 2 separate instances of Hamadryas Hübner, 1806, one
> rejected, one not... The ICZN official list now makes more sense, i.e.
> being able to say both that Hamadryas Hübner, 1806 [Tentamen] is
> unavailable, and that Hamadryas Hübner, 1808 [Reste Zutr, Samml.
> exot. Schmett.] is unavailable because it is a junior homonym of
> Hamadryas Hübner, 1806,  [...]

***
Again, I am not all that expert on the zoological Code, but this, too, is
obviously in error. It is not "unavailable because it is a junior homonym".
It is unavailable because it is in ""... a work rejected for nomenclatural
purposes",  which is (Art. 8.7.1) "not ... a work in which a name ...
can be made available": it does not exist as a scientific name of a genus
(and thus can cause no confusion).

Or to put it differently if it were a junior homonym (which it isn't),
it would not be unavailable: junior homonyms are available names.

Paul


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