[Taxacom] Evolutionary misconceptions (was: Ladderisingphylogenetic trees)
Richard Zander
Richard.Zander at mobot.org
Thu Mar 11 10:57:00 CST 2010
Nice explanation from Curtis. I'm something of an antirealist,
instrumentalist, pragmatist about such things myself, but one must
beware of protothetic or first principle analytic methods, such as using
one model of evolution for all taxa in an evolutionary analysis. The
results may be consistent and reproducible, and may fit aspects of
theory well, but are they right?
As scientists we use deduction when possible with care, but inference
has its dangers, too. We need to be continually on the alert for results
that are merely consistent and reproducible, and eager to see how such
results fit in with extended theory and consilient studies.
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[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Curtis Clark
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:26 AM
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] Evolutionary misconceptions (was:
Ladderisingphylogenetic trees)
On 3/10/2010 9:46 PM, Richard Pyle wrote:
> The easy counterpoint to this is that, looking at the larger picture,
there
> was a discrete event when an otherwise coherent population began its
> divergence down two separate paths. Thus, we can draw a nice little
> cladogram and declare the node to be the founding pregnant female.
But this
> counterpoint ignores the fact that the divergence process happens
**one
> reproductive event at a time**. And besides, what happens when we
step back
> even further? Now instead of looking at fuzzy boundaries between
"same
> subspecies" and "different subspecies", we're now talking about
"different
> subspecies" vs. "different species". Back off a bit futher and we're
> talking about "same subgenus" vs. "different subgenus" ... And so on
and so
> on. Once again, the process is extremely fuzzy -- happening **one
> reproductive event at a time**.
None of us were there. We have the pregnant female's great^10
grandchildren, and the mainland individuals. They are distinct
morphologically, and are reproductively isolated. *Something* happened
to lead to that (can you say "speciation"?).
The birth of that pregnant female's male offspring was the cladogenesis.
*But only in retrospect*.
When I lectured about peripatric speciation, I pointed out that on the
periphery of many species there are multiple oddball isolated
populations, most of which either fail or re-establish gene flow with
the bulk of the species. Only rarely will one of them persist to become
a new species (many are called, few are chosen). The rest are noise.
*But only in retrospect*.
As self-aware results of sexual reproduction, we tend to think in
absolutes about lineages--"I" started with an act of syngamy, which in
one step differentiated me from both my parents. But how early does a
miscarriage have to happen before it wasn't a separate person (the
foundation of much of the abortion debate)? Again, the answers are much
clearer in retrospect.
One of the Aristotelean conceits that continues in modern biology is the
premise that archetypes are timeless. Because the reality of a species
would not be apparent to any observer possessed of all the facts that
exist at any given time, gosh, they must not be real. The physicists
gave up that conceit a while ago. I'm not sure they even care whether
those hadrons and baryons are "real": they allow prediction,
reproducibility, and hypothesis-testing to occur, and that's all a
scientist can really ask for.
One can study, *in retrospect* (in most cases), the factors and often
the events that lead to the formation of new "species", thus
"speciation". These studies often allow prediction, reproducibility, and
hypothesis-testing to occur. To say that species aren't real doesn't
detract from that any more than saying that baryons aren't real.
But our training as scientists teaches us to eschew mixing science with
mysticism. And so we resist the idea that we are studying something that
is "not real", no matter how well it allows prediction, reproducibility,
and hypothesis-testing. And we all know how dismissive it can be to say
that a phenomenon is "not real".
So, for me, the bottom line is that species are real enough for
scientific inquiry, and that's good enough for me.
--
Curtis Clark http://www.csupomona.edu/~jcclark/
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