[Taxacom] LOL (was Re: New lizard species)

Richard Zander Richard.Zander at mobot.org
Thu Jun 10 17:36:45 CDT 2010


I've looked at publications on ancient DNA used in phylogenetics, and
such DNA is mostly used as an outgroup. Does anyone know of a cladogram
where ancient DNA was used as an actual ancestor, that is, identified as
a cladogram node or internode. As opposed to just being an exemplar,
that is, an extant DNA? 

A taxacomer has asserted that fossils are not ancestors of anything
alive today, maybe because they probably are in lines that died out. Is
that the reason? Is it a good reason?

Remember that the phylogenetic tree is caulistically empty. A
phylogenetic tree of life may be totally replaced by a nested
parentheses of life. Well, maybe a phylogram has info on genetic
distances or trait changes, but I do not ever expect to see a dinosaur,
mastodon, or Neanderthal represented as an ancestor of anything modern
in a cladogram. A cladogram is entirely a sister-group diagram.



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-----Original Message-----
From: Kim van der Linde [mailto:kim at kimvdlinde.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:18 AM
To: Richard Zander
Cc: Taxacom
Subject: LOL (was Re: [Taxacom] New lizard species)


Never heard of Ancient DNA yet or dinosaur amino acid sequences? We have
now genetic information of ancestors, isn't that great!





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