[Taxacom] New lizard species

Stephen Thorpe stephen_thorpe at yahoo.co.nz
Mon Jun 7 03:39:15 CDT 2010


Like you say John, you HAVEN'T  seen the paper ...




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From: John Noyes <j.noyes at nhm.ac.uk>
To: fwelter at gwdg.de; taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Sent: Mon, 7 June, 2010 8:28:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New lizard species

I have not seen the paper, but further to this, the names may also not
be available if the authors have not designated primary types and stated
where they are deposited.

John

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[mailto:taxacom-bounces at mailman.nhm.ku.edu] On Behalf Of Francisco
Welter-Schultes
Sent: 05 June 2010 18:03
To: taxacom at mailman.nhm.ku.edu
Subject: Re: [Taxacom] New lizard species

I agree absolutely with Gary that the lizard names were not 
made available under Art. 13.1.1 if no differentiating characters 
were given. 

> All the authors needed to do was say something like "G at position 
> 179 in gene X" 

It is good that molecular biologists usually don't know this trick. 
If they would be able to apply it. But even then, this would be 
debated. I would prefer defining a character in the sense of Art. 
13.1.1 as a recognizable attribute that is produced by the organism 
by using/decoding/reading the DNA Code, and not the DNA Code itself.

They could also have said "the new lizard species is green, while 
the others are blue", even if they knew it was not true, but this 
would also have made the names available. Good that they usually 
don't know this trick either...

Francisco


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